Raptor 80 cdi box will not work in the 50.Also found out that i have to wait 3 weeks for Yamaha to bring in a cdi box from Japan(great)
So if you do need any parts for your Raptor 50,goodluck finding any in stock.

 

Did you try one of the online dealers for parts? Winepeg isn't exactly in the middle of nowhere, but it isn't in the hotbed of ATV parts either. You might have better results going online for the parts. I can't believe that there are none in North America somewhere.

 

have you tried WRHracing Billy holt my be able to help you out. I seem to remember another pred 50 owner doing something to it. i will look around and post the link.

go to this site miniatvs.com

 

The dealer found a cdi box for me.They said it was lost and that they tried to reorder one but the one they originally ordered came in.They said it was the last one in stock and the next one would have had to come from Japan(whatever) it's working now,but still going 12 mph.
It does get to it's top speed fast.To bad it's only 12 mph.If someone does figure out how to get around the limiter,i don't think it's geared for much more speed.If anyone does know or finds something that does work please post it.
Thanks...

 

sorry to hear all your problems.... I was inches away from buying the Raptor 50 until I read a post on here about "Raptor 50 lacks speed" or something like that. Do a word search and you'll find it, it's about 3-4 months old. I thought the 50 had everything; suspension, electric start, shaft drive. I was thinking; ZERO maintenance: PERFECT! The post i just referred to BASHED the 50. All the owners had your exact same complaint and were all discussing a similar CDI fix. Most said they were just going to sell theirs. No speed/ gutless was a common theme.

Don't totally write-off Yamaha though, the 80 is a 3-speed and is great. Remember all the warnings and age suggestions are lawyer driven so that when 1 in 1million kids gets paralyzed, they can hide behind their age warnings and try to put the blame somewhere else (which is fair since the atv accident isn't the manufacturers fault).

 

Wow, that's freaky! you guys used the exact same description in your topics. The other one was posted by Jakesdad, and is titled " 2004 Raptor 50 Top Speed" (he just didn't put his in brackets with small letters). there are 52 replies on that one. For more info, just put raptor 50 inthe search option and there are a few links. If you don't find it, let me know.

 

You can't fault yamaha on this... because look at what they are faced with... a public that already had the 80, but wanted a 50 to meet the safety guidelines and be a gentle machine that can be used by very young kids to learn on. When you talk about 5 and 6 year olds, I think realistically, they don't typically have the judgement skills that they need to go much faster.

Although your child may be a quick learner, the company has to build to the biggest group, and in this case their 50 is fitting right in the demographic. I think perhaps that is a very successful marketing strategy. When they are ready to move up, they buy an 80 because it will feel and handle the same as the 50, only go faster.

What can be done with the 50? Well, because the rev limiter is part of the CDI, perhaps someone will figure out how to hack the box and re-program it much like superchips is doing with automobiles and trucks. Maybe even market a hopped up version. I doubt that Yamaha will do this, but it would sure be neat if someone could figure it out. You might look into who makes it and see if they are willing to hop it up... a long shot I know...

I guess we will need to leave it up to the genius engineer types to help us out...

Just to let you know what the flip side is like... I bought my then 7 year old a raptor 80. And although I adjusted the throttle stop to the point where the thumb throttle was nothing more than a place to rest his thumb, and the machine barely went more than 5 or 6 MPH, it still scared the crap out of him the first time he rode it.. and now I am having problems with him overcoming hs fear of it... and he is almost 9 now. I have had it for almost 2 years and he has not ran a full tank of gas through it yet... I just wish the 50 had been available when we bought his 80. I think he would have adjusted to it much easier. He had been looking forward to the machine for 3 years, and I even made him wait an extra year to make sure he was really wanting it... and now he is too scared to touch it. Luckily, he has again shown some interest, and I have been working with him in the woods in our back yard, and he is now starting to gain in confidence going over logs, through creeks, around trees etc... so maybe with summer around the corner, we might get to get out on the trails later this year after all. Personally, I think all it is going to take is for him to get out and ride with another kid for a while, and peer pressure will take over and get him going on it. On one hand I am glad he is scared of it.. but on the other side, I wish he was able to handle it a little more.

 

Dragginbutt, My situation is almost exactly oppisite from yours. My 8 year old started riding his Badger when he just turned 5. I would not let him out of first in the begining and that sure didn't last long. In just a day or so he was begging for more power and speed. I let him work up to it but in about 2 years he had out grown the performance of the Badger. Now he's riding our LT80 that he says will never be modded enough to please him. He is a very good rider and seems to have always been more "able" , and aware than most kids his age. My 10 yr old is now riding a Honda 300ex. I may get bashed, but he is fairly tall for his age. That and the fact he has been riding since he was 6, are the reasons I even thought about letting him ride it. I almost hate to say it, but he handles it very well. We have rode with alot of other people and they were all afraid that my kids would slow them down, but then found out that my kids rode as well as most adults. (actually better than some) Yes I am bragging, and yes I keep a very watchfull eye on them. The Raptor 50 would have turned my kids away from riding had I choosen it. It is probably a good quad, ment for the parent trying to decide between a battery toy and a gas powered quad. For kids to ride around in the yard and then light trail use. Its a fact if you get hooked at a early age you'll stay with it a long time. Most people will upgrade until they find the machine that fits all their needs. The Raptor 50 was ment to be the very first step. Yahama figures when its not enough, people will just move up.

 

Exactly what I said.... I agree that the official "Guidelines" that everyone keeps quoting are not capable of dealing with kids that are not within their ideal size/shape etc... You are lucky you have two that took to it right away... I keep working on mine.. maybe this summer...I also think if he had another kid to ride with, the outcome may have been different...

I think Yamaha has a good marketing strategy.. it works for them, and they brought out exactly what their customers were asking for. I guess the decision to go with the 50 or 80 is a tough one to make, and one that has to be made depending on your child's ability. I missed the target... but in my defense, the 50 was not on the market when I got his 80, and being somewhat of a Yamaha man, I couldn't force myself to look elsewhere.

With time, he should be OK... I hope.

 

my now 8 y/o started on a PW50 dirtbike and has gone through 5 different quads. He was riding the LT160 mainly for the reverse and racks for skidding logs, he rarely had it out of 4th gear. He now seems to prefer the Raptor 80 for his ability to handle it, but would like reverse.

My now 7 y/o was riding a 1985 LT50. It was tiny and dangerous- Zero suspension, no front brakes and rear brakes that take on mud and water and wear out quickly, but he loved it. He scared me on it, because he was always an eyelash away from a wipe-out. I thought he needed to upgrade so I sold it and got a Honda 90. He hated it. Didn't want to shift. Felt too big and intimidated by the size. He lost a lot of interest after that and was po'ed I sold that little 50. It's been about a year, but he really enjoyed riding the LT80 last night. I got it to replace the Honda 90. I've also seen that pushing them can backfire.

Dragginbut, be patient, sounds like your son is slowly getting himself back on the horse. Don't get frustrated and push him. You're bang-on about peer pressure. Better yet, let someone else you trust take his quad for a spin and he'll perk-up even more. That envy can be a mean monster.