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littleboots 10-16-2015 09:28 AM

LT80 Suzuki. Front clutch wearing groove in belt
 
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So I'm going through a quad u bought for my son. I replaced the front rollers and noticed a groove worn in the belt which is from the washer between the front clutch sheaves. Is this normal? I'm thinking the washer is too big and that someone already messed with the clutch prior to me owning it.

Any help is appreciated. Attachment 9946

littleboots 10-16-2015 09:30 AM

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More pics.

LT80 10-17-2015 07:54 AM

I've not seen that before.
I'm guessing that the front clutch was packed with old hardened grease.
Correct?

Zrock 10-17-2015 08:59 AM

you can see where the belt has been riding on that washer. Looks like someone drilled it out to make it fit. Does not look like its centered.

littleboots 10-17-2015 10:35 AM

Is the washer supposed to be larger than the center bearing the inside sheave rides on? There wasn't much grease in the clutch where the rollers were. It appears to me the washer is too big in diameter and i'm trying to determine if who ever monkeyed with the clutch before me just grabbed a washer and made it work. Isn't there supposed to be a washer between the sheaves?

here's some more pics. I didn't push the washer all the way in hoping it would make it easier to see.
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littleboots 10-17-2015 10:42 AM

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There wasn't too much grease in the front clutch with the rollers. I bought new rollers and installed only 4 of them and was putting everything back together when i noticed the groove in the belt. There is a washer that is installed between the two front sheaves. I believe that washer is too big and that who ever monkeyed around with it before just put whatever in there they wanted. The inside bearing or collar the inside sheave goes over is only 1" in diameter and this washer is 1.25" in diameter. Shouldn't they be the same size?

I also wanted to thank you LT80 for all of your input on different sites. If it wasn't for your I wouldn't have been able to cut down the rear shoes and make the proper modifications to the clutch.

Also one last thing since I have your attention. On the rear clutch should I buy new friction plates seeing I have it off? They seem ok and aren't cracked or damaged.

LT80 10-17-2015 02:59 PM

Thank you. :)
Zrock is correct. The washer looks wore/messed with.
I went to the garage to make sure and the washer should not go over the cranshaft. It looks like yours may go over. Either way it isn't right.
FYI: a good washer isn't a tight fit. So don't get another and worry about it when you see it isn't tight. It'll be fine once the nut is tightened.
You can get another washer or get the long spacer (87 models) Part # 09180-16043

Well...After all that...I just seen the new pics....LOL.
It looks like the washer may be OK.
I'll go measure the washer.

The rear pads seem to last forever. I'm sure yours are fine.

LT80 10-17-2015 03:16 PM

I measured the spacer too. 1.275 long.
Washer: the hole is .578 Outside: 1.243
My $15 calipers are 40 degrees...I may be off a thousandth or 2. :D

littleboots 10-17-2015 03:20 PM

It just doesn't seem right that the washer would cut a groove in my belt but it does because the outside sheave just goes up against the spacer and you have that inside lip that the belt is rubbing on.

I just ordered a new washer from the dealership it was only $3 so i'll find out if that's the problem. If not I think I found the part number to the longer washer (0918016043 )
found this microfiche Suzuki Lt80 1990 (l) Transmission (1) - schematic partsfiche

LT80 10-17-2015 03:26 PM

Looking at the washer, you can see how loose it is by the mark where the spacer was.
It appears the washer is fine and the only reason I can think of for wearing the belt would be the washer not centered.
I've never concerned myself with centering the washers even on customers machines and haven't had any problems.
All I can say is put it together correct and it should be fine.
Hope some of all that helps. :)


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