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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Just a note to Idaho Vinnie, One Wolf and any other Idaho riders. All Idaho motorbike/ATV Registration and Equipment Requirements can be found in Idaho Code Section 49 and 67. According to the codes, you need a valid driver's license, register your ATV as a motor vehicle and display a license plate, carry proof of valid liability insurance, have a brake light, headlights and a taillight after dark, helmet (under age 18), mirror showing roadway 200 feet behind, and a horn audible at 200 feet.

As for the turn signals you mentioned, Idaho Vinnie, that may be a local requirement. The state guy I talked to told me using hand turn signals was acceptable. I had no problems going to the DMV and registering my ATV. They just did a VIN and mileage inspection and verified my insurance, just like they would for a car. I paid my money and they gave me my title and tags. I carry a copy of the State Regs in my ATV in case I ever get pulled over by an officer that doesn't know the law. I ride my ATV to the trailheads (sometime more than 10 miles away) and to work in decent weather. My knobby Holeshot ATRs are pretty noisy on pavement!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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ive been trying to find away for awhile im in GA and we dont have to register our atv's you just buy it and thats it but yeah its a good idea to get this started i work about 15 min away it would be nice to ride to work and back can you let me who i need to write letters to and it will be done
 
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Old May 4, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by: wfo660r
i was definately not saying just switch vin's to an atc frame. there is defiantely a lot of frame cutting and welding and custom fabricatioin and fitting to be done?
The amount of effort it takes is not the point. A motorcycle VIN should never end up on an ATV; if the ATV's VIN needs to change, it should get a new, state-assigned "special construction" VIN.

There is a fundamental difference between bolting a trike swingarm on an otherwise stock motorcycle (in which the motorcycle VIN would still be legal) and creating a homebuilt vehicle from used parts (in which a new Spec. Const. VIN would be required). Exactly where the line is between those two legal realities is a rather gray area, but welding in a section of frame with another VIN is way over the line in anybody's book. That being said, what side of the line any individual vehicle falls on is really wherever a police officer, customs agent, or court of law says it is at any given moment. Some people are under the impression that all you need is matching numbers on the frame, engine cases and title. However, that is not the case. Three different LEOs I spoke with (a Missouri State Trooper, a local Kansas City cop, and a Kansas Trooper) each shared a different "rule of thumb" for when a vehicle's VIN ceases to be legal. Interesting these might conflict with each other:
1) More than 51% of the vehicle is has been modified. This is probably a more liberal interpretation than most would agree is legal.
2) The vehicle cannot be easily converted back to stock configuration. When I asked him what "easily" means, he smiled and said, "That's debatable." But then he added, "it means you can't weld more than sheetmetal."
3) The vehicle is "substantially different in construction and appearance." In other words, if it isn't recognizable to a casual observer as a Yamaha XT550 or a Gold Wing or a Corvette, then it can't have an XT550's, Gold Wing's, or Corvette's VIN. This is what the MO Trooper in charge of vehicle enforcement told me, and it is probably the strictest interpretation.

I realize that this is a cold topic. Sorry to be so long in between posts. Life got in the way.
 
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Old May 9, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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ATVs and dirt bikes can be licensed for street in Idaho. All ATVs & motorcycles must have horn, mirror, two rear brake lights, certificate of title, proof of insurance, and driver's license (Helmets require for under 18 years old; Recommended are headlights, tail lights, DOT tires & turn signals). Idaho DMV will issue a license plate on presentation of the certificate of title. Police, troopers, & deputies will check to make sure your equipment is on and working, like other vehicles. Also all motorcycle operators must have a motorcycle endosement.
Also in some smaller Idaho cities, during the winter with snow floor, ATVs & snowmobile are authorized to travel city streets without license requirements, just OHV or Snowmobile registration sticker displayed.
 
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Old May 13, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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What has happened with making the Mo. laws street legal atv"s? I live in a small town and they wont even let you ride them on the street here but they allow the pocket bikes. Go figure! I own 3 Polaris 400 4x4's- 2005, 1996 and 1994. The closest place to ride legal is in St. Joe State Park but they dont allow passengers and I love to ride my 6 years old granddaughter and grandsons. Please dont suggest that i get a motorcycle! I cant ride one. Besides I feel so much safer on my ATV then on a motorcycle.
 
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Old May 13, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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In Idaho, the ATVs and dirt bikes that are "street legal," with license plates and proper equipment mainly drive graded dirt roads to get from one trail system to another trail system, usually a mile or so between trail heads. I have never seen ATVs without DOT tires drive paved street in traffic (except with snow floor). This year, Polaris is making a street legal ATV for European countries.
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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1.85$ is good, in southern cali its almost 4$, that is crazy, way to expensive
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Idaho Parks & Recreation has brochure called: Motorbike / ATV Registration & Equipment Requirements.
The brochure tells exactly how to make your ATV street legal, get a license plate, etc. And of course, brochure also tells you what requirements are for off-road trails.

LTR450: price of gas here is $2.86 per gallon. Do you ride Glamis (Imperial Dunes) or Dumont Dunes in CA?
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by: LW
Idaho Parks & Recreation has brochure called: Motorbike / ATV Registration & Equipment Requirements.
The brochure tells exactly how to make your ATV street legal, get a license plate, etc. And of course, brochure also tells you what requirements are for off-road trails.

LTR450: price of gas here is $2.86 per gallon. Do you ride Glamis (Imperial Dunes) or Dumont Dunes in CA?
havent been to either yet [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img], but will go sometime
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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LTR450,
I was just thinking your 450 with paddle tires would be fun at the dunes, seeing you were out of So Cal. I still ride those areas annually, once or twice in the fall & winter. Do you play in the Mojave Desert? Mojave desert used to be an old riding area of mine, before I moved to Idaho.
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