ss97,
Thanks for the support. I knew that the odds were against me when Ibought my ATV but non the less, I enjoy vehicles and there are some local places I can still ride. As a parent, it breaks my heart to hear about children getting killed and I try to put myself in the shoes of the parents who suffered the loss. I do my part in keeping myself and riders around me safe and it's a shame that fatalities occur in this sport. Actually, the public sector has made it a free-for-all without even considering the sportsmanship necessary to keep it alive so calling it a sport isn't really appropriate in most cases. I wish everyone a safe ride and thanks for reading.

 

The bad eggs always get the press. Its time to stand up and demand coverage and build a front group of ATVr's who PICK **** UP on the trails and Not Just B!tch about the litter. When im out riding on public land or whatever and i see cans and crap scatterd i pick it up. whatever i can reasonably carry. if every good ATVr Picked up 1 can everytime they went down the trail. prolly wouldnt be much for the eco ****'s to B!tch about. Just my 1 cent worth [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

I agree with you guys in here.

I wish you guys that posted about this topic would take the time to visit the Honda Forum and go to a heading''HOT PURSUIT''..

You should see the amount of kids in there that think its perfectly ok to run from the law,litter,or do whatever THEY feel is right on their ATVs with NO regard to the ATV laws of their land.They need to hear from some verteran riders like yourselves..I gave some of them hell in there,and rightfully so.

Bill
Michigan ATV Safety Association-Director/Instructor
ATV Safety Institute Instructor
Bombardier 2-up Safety Instructor

 

Muddy4Life,
You can now go to the Honda forum and read my comments on Hot Persuit. Thanks for the heads up!

 

i agree...i went riding on the powerlines and i took a new trail i had never been on before...there was a place people must of camped...there were at least 20 bud cans thrown around...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img]...if people can bring it in they can bring it out...

 

Loweboy,
thanks for the support.Just MAYBE a few more folks like you,and some of them kids over there might see the light?

Thanks,
Bill

 

once again, the lesson (in any subject) is if you do nothing, little by little, it's over. simple. as for as oour sport goes, it will get too complicated, overegulated and simply wont be worth it in gov steps in any further.

you know, i dont know why you insist upon arguing over something that i mostly agree with you on. im not against regulations. in fact, im for them. the issue i have is that we have them on the books already (laws) - why do we need more? What we need is the ENFORCEMENT of the ones we already have. there are already laws about who can ride, how to ride, where you can ride (not the street) and to NOT ride under the infuence of alcohol (as with any motor vehichle).

What you conclude is that you want government to step in and take the reigns and maker even more rules...which is supposed to make it better?

never said it was a complicated matter. but, once again, 100% agree. why argue? NO ONE under ANY circumstance should be doing this. the violaters need to be weeded out. but it can be done with existing regulations.



???? seems like you left a couple words out but i think i see what you mean.. i think... well, no sir. goverment is for the people, by the people. unfortunatly in our society its gov of the sqeaky wheel. we need to make OUR wheel sqeak a little louder than it has in the past and louder than the others' instead of sitting by and watching things happen TO us. we need to make things happen FOR us.

yes it is. we already have restrictions on this. they are not enforced and dealers violate them all the time by selling the machines to young, inexperienced riders. the problem here is the parents buying these machines to babysit their kids. the parents just dont understand how fast they go -the dealer just wants to make money, so they look the other way. the truth is that government is not your mommy or daddy in this situation- other than SHUTTING the offending dealer down for such violations, not coming after average joe rider, making his life hell for it and cutting his priveledges out.

 

[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img] Bingo!, I aggree with that! Look at just the "views" of the USFS comment threads.... Very few... and are they responding? Let us hope so!
I am subscibed to 6 land use topics, and have not been notified of ANY replies. I tried to post land use topics on "Puget sound Seattle riders.meet here" and have been bomarded with the realization that most members (in this area) seem to only care about thier NEXT ride- Not the fact that thier riding areas WILL be disappearing if they ignore the threat! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

20characters,
I understand what the lesson is and I'm not arguing. I want you to tell me how you'd defend your position on ATV trail riding when there is alcohol consumption, tresspass, fatalities, firearm use and perhaps while being under the influence, fleeing to avoid arrest and boasting about it. You really must take a step back and read these comments more objectively. No, the government is not my mommy and daddy but is there for the people who desperately need that guidance and many do in this sport. You seem to freely speak out about the attacks on negativity in this sport and I struggle to understand why. I can only imagine why this is a sore spot with you. We need less of, "Yea, I ran from that cop too" and, "The cops up here are all a$$ holes", "I can carry 15 cases of beer in the cooler I made". Do you think these forums are off limits to the politicians? These guys(politicians) are Ivy League graduates who forgot more than we'll learn in our lifetime and definately know how to access the internet. Beside that, the internet was designed by the United States Federal Government to establish an information source and communication link throughout the world for military purposes. I really don't think that the Federal Government will place questionaires in Drit Rider magazine when gathering information about ATV usage. Incase you haven't noticed, I AM being a squeaky wheel and starting at the level where it means the most. If my comments reach and influence the behavior of one rider, it made a difference. I challenge you to speak out too, that is if you are truely apart from the perpetraters

 

something i don't understand why we can't keep it all good.My best freind and his 8 year old little girl got hurt on fat boy everyone got together from the dealership to pay his bills for 6 months. there fine now,nobody said nothing negativity about having his little girl on a street bike. they keep positive !!!!!! IF ONLY?????????? my two cents