Savannah, NY man booby traps trail
#31
Who gives a **** about that story...you put up a wire/rope anything where you KNOW there are ATV's..Guess what?! You put up some red flags, markers, notification, so people know its there.
If you wired up a shotgun to shoot the tires and it missed how would that be any different?
That story doesn't sell me, you must have money if it persuaded the DA. Your not fooling me. Sorry, ignorance is no excuse....
If you wired up a shotgun to shoot the tires and it missed how would that be any different?
That story doesn't sell me, you must have money if it persuaded the DA. Your not fooling me. Sorry, ignorance is no excuse....
#32
Not a good way to handle that situation.
I'm having a similar problem. A couple of yahoos came tearing through my farm not too long ago. Parked their trucks in my field, unloaded, and had at it. Made a mess out of the creek. I wasn't there at the time, but it's hard not to take that personally.
So how am I going to handle that? Patience and common sense. They came around on a Saturday, so I'm sticking around on weekends. Nailed up a full fence across the trail they came in on - not a single wire. I don't want to injure, I want that nonsense stopped. If they come back... I'm waiting with a high resolution digital camera and 400mm lens. Get photos of their trucks, license plates, them in action, and then find some mean hungry lawyer and sue the pants off of them. Make them pay for my time that they took up. Get a restraining order so if they come back they get jail time just for being there.
Don't injure creeps. That's too easy, and too quick. Toss them to the american legal system - it's the worst possible misery you can inflict on a person, and they'll end up hating the courts and not you.
And if you have kids causing the problem, sue the parents. That will put a stop to the problem real quick, when dad starts losing money out of his pocket.
I'm having a similar problem. A couple of yahoos came tearing through my farm not too long ago. Parked their trucks in my field, unloaded, and had at it. Made a mess out of the creek. I wasn't there at the time, but it's hard not to take that personally.
So how am I going to handle that? Patience and common sense. They came around on a Saturday, so I'm sticking around on weekends. Nailed up a full fence across the trail they came in on - not a single wire. I don't want to injure, I want that nonsense stopped. If they come back... I'm waiting with a high resolution digital camera and 400mm lens. Get photos of their trucks, license plates, them in action, and then find some mean hungry lawyer and sue the pants off of them. Make them pay for my time that they took up. Get a restraining order so if they come back they get jail time just for being there.
Don't injure creeps. That's too easy, and too quick. Toss them to the american legal system - it's the worst possible misery you can inflict on a person, and they'll end up hating the courts and not you.
And if you have kids causing the problem, sue the parents. That will put a stop to the problem real quick, when dad starts losing money out of his pocket.
#34
Yeah JohnO, you make sure you put out flashing lights, hire a flagman and start a signal fire and rent spotlights so they don't run into that field fence and kill themselves. They just can't cope with the concept of a fence. It is totally alien to them you know. They just can't noodle it through. They seem to just aim themselves at them and wham! It's carnage, death, weeping relatives, followed soon after lawyers. For some odd reasons the cattle I have can seem to grasp the concept fence. I mean they have it down. Even a newborn calf figures it out pretty quick. "Fence. It don't move. It have pointy pokey bits. Don't run at fence at full speed or it hurt bad. Don't go this direction Farmer don't want me go there." They get the concept and they don't need these elaborate safety measures some humans seem to require.
Now just for a point of reference a human has an average brain weight of 1500 grams and a cow has an average brain weigh of just 500 grams. As a percentage of body weight that is 2,1 for the average human and just 0,2 for a cow.
Now just for a point of reference a human has an average brain weight of 1500 grams and a cow has an average brain weigh of just 500 grams. As a percentage of body weight that is 2,1 for the average human and just 0,2 for a cow.
#36
Nice story but you are still WRONG. If you put that wire up you are trying to hurt someone and that makes your husband a murderer.
Actually it's a few months later so I hope he is in jail, where he belongs.
Actually it's a few months later so I hope he is in jail, where he belongs.
#37
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Krissibare
How'd you feel if someone zoomed past you and your 2 year old child on their four wheeler with no intentions of slowing down and almost hitting your child??
Get both sides of the story before assuming that EVERYTHING you read it correct!</end quote></div>
So this gives you the right to try and KILL someone on that four wheeler?
I guess there's a reason they call you people out there "backwards".
How'd you feel if someone zoomed past you and your 2 year old child on their four wheeler with no intentions of slowing down and almost hitting your child??
Get both sides of the story before assuming that EVERYTHING you read it correct!</end quote></div>
So this gives you the right to try and KILL someone on that four wheeler?
I guess there's a reason they call you people out there "backwards".
#39
Maby we need to put all of our efforts and energy to educating these younger and less experienced atv riders about proper riding etiquette, for example tresspass laws, leagal noise levels, etc. Instead of rushing to conclusion for both of these parties involved. Now I do not condone the type of behabvior displayed by the accused, but I see more kids riding their ATVs in a harmfull manner to the environment, the public, and themselves. Like atv education states, " It only takes one negative atv incident to take our rights away from us, and we have to fight for years to get those rights back."
As an ATV community we need to hold those ATVers who negatively affect our sport accountable.
As an ATV community we need to hold those ATVers who negatively affect our sport accountable.
#40
In the small town where i live in souther minnesota there are 4 wheeler running the streets everyday. we are allowed to run them up and down the streets, as long as we obey the rules the city has set forth. But there are always those idiots that are trying to get it banned within city limits cuz they cant follow the rules. around here we really have no where to ride except on farmers property along the river. they also us to do this as long as we are wearing helmets and not tearing everything up. most of us are good about it but we have lost lots of land to ride due to one idiot and thank god he has moved away.


