ATV SIZE LIMITATIONS
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08-31-2006, 02:11 PM
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most machines are designed with a specific use in mind. The heavier utes are in no way designed to be "Sport Utes". Their emphasis is more towards the utility aspect. This is where people need to decide what machine is best for their intended use. If their usage requires a 700 or even an 800 pound ATV, then they need to take that into consideration.
If the military purchases the MV from Polaris and a GI drives it under a tank and kills himself we can't blame the ATV. As I've mentioned before, ATV's are in no way dangerous until you add the "rider component".
I feel that manufacturers can build them as heavy as they want so long as they serve their intended purpose. Most states have weight restrictions to help preserve their trails because the heavier machines do tend to create more damage to the terrain. But this too can be impacted more from rider input vs. the machine itself.
If the military purchases the MV from Polaris and a GI drives it under a tank and kills himself we can't blame the ATV. As I've mentioned before, ATV's are in no way dangerous until you add the "rider component".
I feel that manufacturers can build them as heavy as they want so long as they serve their intended purpose. Most states have weight restrictions to help preserve their trails because the heavier machines do tend to create more damage to the terrain. But this too can be impacted more from rider input vs. the machine itself.
#12
08-31-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by: LEP7MM
most machines are designed with a specific use in mind. The heavier utes are in no way designed to be "Sport Utes". Their emphasis is more towards the utility aspect. This is where people need to decide what machine is best for thier intended use. If their usage requires a 700 or even an 800 pound ATV, then they need to take that into consideration.
If the military purchases the MV from Polaris and a GI drives it under a tank and kills himself we can't blame the ATV. As I've mentioned before, ATV's are in no way dangerous until you add the "rider component".
I feel that manufacturers can build them as heavy as they want so long as they serve their intended purpose. Most states have weight restrictions to help preserve their trails because the heavier machines do tend to create more damage to the terrain. But this too can be impacted more from rider input vs. the machine itself.
most machines are designed with a specific use in mind. The heavier utes are in no way designed to be "Sport Utes". Their emphasis is more towards the utility aspect. This is where people need to decide what machine is best for thier intended use. If their usage requires a 700 or even an 800 pound ATV, then they need to take that into consideration.
If the military purchases the MV from Polaris and a GI drives it under a tank and kills himself we can't blame the ATV. As I've mentioned before, ATV's are in no way dangerous until you add the "rider component".
I feel that manufacturers can build them as heavy as they want so long as they serve their intended purpose. Most states have weight restrictions to help preserve their trails because the heavier machines do tend to create more damage to the terrain. But this too can be impacted more from rider input vs. the machine itself.
Very well put.... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
#13
08-31-2006, 03:45 PM
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At what point does an ATV get so heavy and huge, that it is just really a small truck without any roll cage??? How many of you would be willing to go off-roading in dicey terrain in a jeep with no roll cage or seat belts??? If one wants to go huge and heavy, I really think the Rhino is the sensible answer..........
Someone mentioned that folks think SPEED is the only safety issue. The worst accident I have witnessed happend when the quad was sitting almost still. Someone trying to make a hill, getting stopped, the the quad goes over backward.
Ever seen someone kick a loading ramp out from under them? No speed involved there. Not a pretty picture........
Someone mentioned that folks think SPEED is the only safety issue. The worst accident I have witnessed happend when the quad was sitting almost still. Someone trying to make a hill, getting stopped, the the quad goes over backward.
Ever seen someone kick a loading ramp out from under them? No speed involved there. Not a pretty picture........
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Thanks squeege.
My point there was the MV weighs in at a hefty 1000 lbs if I remember right. Nothing more than a beefed up SP700.
As far as low speed accidents, a firend of mine was sitting still when he tried to dismount his SP500 and broke his leg. His foot didn't turn with the rest of his body. SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My point there was the MV weighs in at a hefty 1000 lbs if I remember right. Nothing more than a beefed up SP700.
As far as low speed accidents, a firend of mine was sitting still when he tried to dismount his SP500 and broke his leg. His foot didn't turn with the rest of his body. SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-31-2006, 05:25 PM
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I looked through the pictures of folks who responded to this and the "TV death" thread". Take a look yourself, and notice how very many of them have pics of riders with no helmets! LEP7, I see you are a safety instructor, so what you got to say about that?
Makes me wonder if all you have done here is select for respondents who don't really take safety very seriously to begin with???? What if guys who tend buy huge heavy quads, just happen to be the same guys who imagine that they are indestructible???
Food for thought.........
Makes me wonder if all you have done here is select for respondents who don't really take safety very seriously to begin with???? What if guys who tend buy huge heavy quads, just happen to be the same guys who imagine that they are indestructible???
Food for thought.........
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08-31-2006, 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by: reconranger
I looked through the pictures of folks who responded to this and the "TV death" thread". Take a look yourself, and notice how very many of them have pics of riders with no helmets! LEP7, I see you are a safety instructor, so what you got to say about that?
Makes me wonder if all you have done here is select for respondents who don't really take safety very seriously to begin with???? What if guys who tend buy huge heavy quads, just happen to be the same guys who imagine that they are indestructible???
Food for thought.........
I looked through the pictures of folks who responded to this and the "TV death" thread". Take a look yourself, and notice how very many of them have pics of riders with no helmets! LEP7, I see you are a safety instructor, so what you got to say about that?
Makes me wonder if all you have done here is select for respondents who don't really take safety very seriously to begin with???? What if guys who tend buy huge heavy quads, just happen to be the same guys who imagine that they are indestructible???
Food for thought.........
#19
08-31-2006, 06:36 PM
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It is freedom...We own land here in the good ole USA and if I wanna ride a heavy quad on that land with no helmit ...then so be it....I'll decide!
Whether we like it or not, we ATV riders are the ones who are responsible for what the outside world thinks of what we do. If we give them every chance to shut us down, don't kid yourself, they will!
#20
08-31-2006, 07:58 PM
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Here is a little info on what's up in PA as far as banning goes..... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
This is from July 6th 2001
"Pennsylvania currently leads the nation in ATV sales and there are already an estimated 500,000 units in the state. These numbers did not occur overnight. There are approximately 2.4 million acres of forested land in the state yet there are only 188 miles of trails. These trails have not grown in the last 15 years and very little has been done to maintain them. Their poor initial design has also led to ongoing difficulties. It's no wonder that illegal ATV use has become a problem. ATVers don't want to ride everywhere they just want to ride somewhere. You do the math, 188 miles and 500,000 units just doesn't add up! Legal trails can easily be made that don't cross sensitive areas."
Since then people have been buying atv's here at such a rapid pace that the had to switch registration to every 2 years cause they couldn't keep up....
More recent news.....
July 1, 2003
RENDELL ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES MORE THAN $1.16 MILLION IN RECREATIONAL TRAIL GRANTS
March 26, 2004
RENDELL ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES $2.2 MILLION IN GRANTS FOR ATV, SNOWMOBILE OPPORTUNITIES
Acquisition of 6,000-acre parcel for multi-use, motorized recreation highlights ceremony
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This is from July 6th 2001
"Pennsylvania currently leads the nation in ATV sales and there are already an estimated 500,000 units in the state. These numbers did not occur overnight. There are approximately 2.4 million acres of forested land in the state yet there are only 188 miles of trails. These trails have not grown in the last 15 years and very little has been done to maintain them. Their poor initial design has also led to ongoing difficulties. It's no wonder that illegal ATV use has become a problem. ATVers don't want to ride everywhere they just want to ride somewhere. You do the math, 188 miles and 500,000 units just doesn't add up! Legal trails can easily be made that don't cross sensitive areas."
Since then people have been buying atv's here at such a rapid pace that the had to switch registration to every 2 years cause they couldn't keep up....
More recent news.....
July 1, 2003
RENDELL ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES MORE THAN $1.16 MILLION IN RECREATIONAL TRAIL GRANTS
March 26, 2004
RENDELL ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES $2.2 MILLION IN GRANTS FOR ATV, SNOWMOBILE OPPORTUNITIES
Acquisition of 6,000-acre parcel for multi-use, motorized recreation highlights ceremony
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