I think the more shops out there for the predator the better.

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I believe SP700RACER brings up a very good point. I understand some of you guys not likeing him but from everything i've read in the past that was SP700RACER vs. all, it seems that everyone likes to gang up on the guy. His views are just as good as anyone else's. I'd rather not mention the handful of "cheerleaders" we have here but Im sure you guys know who Im talking about. Hey Im a cheerleader in a way. I cheer all the products I have on my quad that I've had good experiences with. Until we have actually used that product we are bashing and not going by what we've heard of others experiences I dont think we have room to talk crap about one company or another. If Im not mistaken SBS was one of the first to offer hop up mods. Regardless of how it turned out they still deserve credit for as far as they have come. Nothing is perfect the first time around. Maybe HPD has taken so long to come out with something cuz they've been busy with their noses in the grindstone trying to perfect their products but anyhow SBS is probably doing the same. Why lay out our hand of cards on the table for all to see so soon? For all we know SBS might be making some rocket fast Pred. They did kinda just "fade" away for awhile. Everyone makes a comeback...hopefully stronger than before. SP700RACER seems to be a good friend of Gary's so he probably has a better idea of what kinda problems Gary's products have been running into but Im sure the guys at HPD, HSP, and Aaen have all had their own problems as well. I've never heard SP700RACER diss on any of the other companies. Everyone else on this board seems to just bash on him whenever he mentions SBS. Lets just keep our own opinions to ourselves. PredMan2004 asked a simple question which should have had a simple answer posted....not a "lets wait for SP700RACER to post so we can bash the crap outta him post". Ken is a very knowledgeable guy I wont deny that. As we can all probably tell he is a HSP, HPD, Aaen "cheerleader". He's probably had good experiences with them so he can cheer them on. Im a cheerleader as well. I cheer for all the companies I use products from that I've had good experiences. The product doesnt have to be the greatest for me to cheer them on. I've used products that wernt the best of quality and all, however I continue to cheer them on because the experience with the manufacturer was good. They have corrected the issue at hand without any delays. Lets just respect everyones opinion. To each his own. Okay someone shoot me now.

 

stand back, my turn.

jsyi, mate please hit the enter key after a sentence now and again.
It took me 4 goes to read it, and if I read it properly I don't have to say any more.
Well stated & well done.
From down under,


Geoff.

 

Pudljumpr, There are Polaris factory engines at the Superbike shop right now for development. They are doing this development for people just like you that race the Predator. Some of the early trans mods that were developed at the Superbike shop made there way to the 2004 Predator. Once again everyone that bashes Gary and Superbike benefits. Rath has made improvements to the Predator also. Things have not been quiet at the shop, just on the internet. They are building a new facility and have been focusing on the Polaris / KTM dealerships. Superbike developed a few very necessary parts. You can say you peace about the Airforce system, but nothing has outperformed it on the dyno or track. There are some other good kits out there, Hot seat would be my next choice. (clamp on is the worst). Superbike is a engine shop and will not be producing alot of parts as the other shops do. They use the best parts available to build the engines with. (not parts they manufacture and say is the best). The dyno determines what really works. My Pred has parts from other shops on it. If it works we use it. JSYI you are correct the screamer is out of R & D and ready for production. It is extensive work to the bottom end, new rod, piston, special coatings applied to all internal components and billet cylinder. Trans and clutch has to be modded also.

 

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LOL

 

ok ok this is getting old. Take a look at the facts, yes FACTS because I just called Rath.
#1 Do you really think a factory paying someone to do engine R&D would want the factory racer to run a different engine.
# 2 The only one claiming to have this contract with Polaris is Gary, it has NEVER been said by, Rath, Polaris, any magazines...only Gary and yes his cheerleaders.
#3 Rath stated Gary was given a chance didn't produce what was promised and there is no current agreement with Polaris and SBS....Why would he lie??
#4 There is a big chance (hint..hint) that Rath will not be racing a Yamaha next year.
So maybe now this pissing match can finally stop!

 

Believe anything you want JGL, I have personally seen the engines. There is no pissing match, just a few uninformed people. Just for the record, Superbike was sent the engines because the other people trying to develop power was not delivering. So how did Superbike get the 440 kit months before you had any idea it was coming out. I don't think Rath would be very happy if he knew you was using his name to make statements. The Polaris factory did not tell Rath who to use for engines, they give him money and let him make that decision, he has used several different people. TC is just the latest. As far as Superbike not producing, the executives at Polaris used Superbike for there personal Predators, enough said.

 

Let me quess..you got your information from Gary
Gary said.... find me some infomation from someone other then Gary and I might listen to your opinion.
Gary said just doesn't cut it., for me or many others.
How long do you think Rath has been racing the 440??? Way before Gary even thought about it!

 

Nobody has to tell me anything, I have been there, seen the engine's, seen the dyno results for the Worcs series engines Gary built for Polaris. Not deliver, thats funny considering the HP they made. Now you are the one making phone calls and saying he said , she said. I don't care if you believe it or not, thats your choice. See I know alot more about Rath, Polaris, Superbike and other related stuff that I will not discuss over the internet. Despite everyone involved difference's, they are all working to achieve the same goal.