I attended some atv pulls yesterday and the stock 900 lb class was mostly Sportsman and Grizzlies , and they were so close that i am not sure that either was the winner, it was literally inches apart most of the time, the Girzz's would pul futher then the Sportsman would it was allot of fun, Well two of the best pullers Sportsman were stock except 25 inch Vamps, I was wondering how much rougher of a ride could I expect, with these on my Sportsman? They pulled 20 feet more , than the stock Sportsman with stock tires, plus they looked really good on the Sportsman and performed great too, I did not get a chance to ask the owners.

 

i have been trying to decide between, the Vamps and mudrunners. I really want the Mudrunners the most for my sp500 in the 26" tire. They offer a smooth ride. The also steer as easy as stock and offer 1" lugs(while the vamps have 42/32. Well C-YA

 

IMHO you won't notice the difference in ride quality unless you ride a lot of smooth hard pack and/or paved trails (in which case, they are both the wrong tire). You will notice the difference in pull between the tires in soft pack/mud/snow/etc. The Vamps are superior. Decide what kind of riding you (really) are going to be doing and choose accordingly. I have vamps on a Polaris and believe that the claims about roughness-of-ride are greatly exaggerated by people that haven't spent much time on them.

 

Don't R/O the Titian 589's

 

PJ is right on.I have the Mudrunners on my 99 Sportsman and also my 00 Xplorer.These are some butt kicking mudders.

My brother John has the Vamps on his 97 KQ.PJ is right,the rough ride that some folks say the Vamps give,is EXAGERATED.

Either the Vamps or Mudrunners is an excellant choice.They both work equally well in the mud/snow,best of luck,====Bill

 

The Sportsman, and most Polaris models, have a pretty smooth ride and you don't notice the harsh ride unless you ride fast.

 

You guys who are suggesting the Vamps are good in snow must not be in that much snow. When I replaced the stock tires on my SP500 with Vamps a few winters ago I noticed the difference immediately, the stock tires had FAR better grab and steering control. Vamps are the worst tires I’ve ever run in the snow, and we ride in the Lake Superior Snow Belt and I clear over a half-mile of gravel road so I speak from some experience. I’ll agree with you about the ride quality and the mud performance though. The ride suffers some, but not a lot. They are fantastic in what they’re made for, mud.

Since the Vamps I’ve run Kenda Bear Claws and now Mud Runners. Both were (are) excellent in the snow. The Claws are now on my wife’s Mag 500. Riding in about 10” of snow with 3 others last spring (2 SPs w/ MRs, 1 w/27” Vamps, 1 Mag w/Claws) the Vamp shod SP had the most difficult time breaking trail by far.

The Mud Runners are the best all-around tire I’ve owned that still have good mudding capabilities. Claws are a real good light weight all-around tire but they aren’t in the serious mudder class. They’re capable, but don’t have the grab and clean-out that the true mudders do. I’d buy the Claws and MRs again but not the Vamps. Although I miss them in serious mud, which we enjoy often, they aren’t my preferred tire for the other 80% of our riding conditions.

 

Well i do allot of different riding, it depends on my mood. sometimes mud is all I seek and sometimes we just ride on the old rail beds and cruise along. Though 75 percent of my riding is on trails, roots , rocks mud , ravines the whole nine yards. Snow doesnt matter we get so much up here and all the trails are marked drug snowsled trails that are illegal for atv's to be on, which is no big deal 7 feet of snow no four wheeler is going through that. I am thinking maybe buying a rims and tires so i can just swap them off when i want too.

 

highlifter reccomended maybe i might want to try the Super Swamper TSl, it is not as wild as the Vamps but still very good , for my type of riding and only a little over 60 bucks apiece seems to be a deal.

 

If youre considering the Mudrunners, make sure you check out treadepot.com, they beat everybody elses price by about $20 per tire. I bought th 26" that fit on the stock wheels and so far I am VERY pleased