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Polaris, Super Strength Tie Rod Ends
March 28 2004
OK, here we go.
I got my tie rod ends from MSC Industrial supply 1-800-645-7270. All part numbers are off their big book. I don't have any cross-reference numbers. You will have to measure your tie rods to see what you need, that part will be up to you. If you are OK with that, here goes:
Tie rod ends for machines with the 1/2 inch diameter fine thread tie rods (20 threads per inch) such as what is on my 1999 Xplorer:
For extra-strength tie rod ends (15,000# rated) the part number is:
35398700
That is for a 1/2 inch fine thread female tie rod end. The inner end is right hand thread, the outer one is left hand thread. The part numbers are the same, you need to specify RH or LH thread when ordering. If you don't specify, you will probably get RH thread.
The center hole of these ends is larger than the Polaris one. You will either have to drill the hole out on your machine, and use a larger bolt, or get bushings to make up the difference. I used bushings. The bushing part #s are:
06454524 bushing for the outer tie rod end
90845942 bushing for the inner tie rod end.
The outer tie rod end needs just a little extra clearance to work properly, so I used a bushing with a small shoulder built into it. I placed this shoulder between the tie rod end and strut, and it works fine. The inner doesn't need the extra clearance, so it gets a standard bushing.
Cost, out of last year's book is $19.66 for the tie rod ends, and 55 cents each bushing. You may or may not need to get bolts (3/8 inch hardware store stuff) to attatch the outer ends, depending on year and model.
Now, if you have an older machine, or any one with the 3/8 inch fine threaded tie rods, your tie rod end part # will be:
35398684
This is for a 3/8 inch tie rod end, 3/8 inch fine female thread. No bushings will be needed. Again, you may need to go to the hardware store for bolts on the outers, or may not, depending on your machine.
The only other consideration is that since these are heavy-duty ends, they are slightly larger than the stockers. If you have oversized tires that almost rub the ends, they may touch these. I would say you lose just under 1/4 inch of clearance between the tie rod end and tire (my guess). These are super-strength ends, with teflon bearings, and will definately outlast the stockers. I triple checked the part numbers, and sure hope I got them all right, but measuring the tie rod ends is up to you.
UPDATE
The OUTER tie rod ends on the older machines, the ones with the 3/8 inch tie rod, can also use part # 35398783
This tie rod end will have a stud where it fits into the strut, instead of just an eye. It will be similar to the original equipment like what is on my brother's '95 Xpress, and won't need an additional bolt for it's use.
Also, if you order anything from MSC, be sure to ask them to include a copy of their BIG book. Has more stuff like this (and bearings, tools, etc, etc) than you can shake a stick at. To give you an idea of just how much stuff they have in the book (also available on CD) the tie rod ends are on page 3798
They also have a website, if you want pictures of what the parts look like, you can go to http://www.mscdirect.com/
The Polaris part #s for the outer tie rod end, 1/2 inch tie rod is 7061033
which has been updated to Polaris # 7061054
The Polaris part # for the inner tie rod end, 1/2 inch is 7061034
I don't have the part #s for the 3/8 inch tie rod.
Remember that the 1/2 inch tie rod ends need the bushings in them, as the eye diameter is bigger than the mounting bolt. The MSC part #s are in my previous post.
I might also add that on some (especially older) machines, the inner tie rods may be a tight fit. You can get them to work by 'staggering' them, as they do on the newer machines. They put one end between the ears on the steering post, and use a longer bolt (with a spacer between the ears so they won't crush) and put the other end beneath the ears. This should give enough clearance to make it work. I thought I would add this as my Xplorer already had them 'staggered' from the factory, but brother's older Xpress had both between the ears on the steering post.
Polaris, Super Strength Tie Rod Ends
March 28 2004
OK, here we go.
I got my tie rod ends from MSC Industrial supply 1-800-645-7270. All part numbers are off their big book. I don't have any cross-reference numbers. You will have to measure your tie rods to see what you need, that part will be up to you. If you are OK with that, here goes:
Tie rod ends for machines with the 1/2 inch diameter fine thread tie rods (20 threads per inch) such as what is on my 1999 Xplorer:
For extra-strength tie rod ends (15,000# rated) the part number is:
35398700
That is for a 1/2 inch fine thread female tie rod end. The inner end is right hand thread, the outer one is left hand thread. The part numbers are the same, you need to specify RH or LH thread when ordering. If you don't specify, you will probably get RH thread.
The center hole of these ends is larger than the Polaris one. You will either have to drill the hole out on your machine, and use a larger bolt, or get bushings to make up the difference. I used bushings. The bushing part #s are:
06454524 bushing for the outer tie rod end
90845942 bushing for the inner tie rod end.
The outer tie rod end needs just a little extra clearance to work properly, so I used a bushing with a small shoulder built into it. I placed this shoulder between the tie rod end and strut, and it works fine. The inner doesn't need the extra clearance, so it gets a standard bushing.
Cost, out of last year's book is $19.66 for the tie rod ends, and 55 cents each bushing. You may or may not need to get bolts (3/8 inch hardware store stuff) to attatch the outer ends, depending on year and model.
Now, if you have an older machine, or any one with the 3/8 inch fine threaded tie rods, your tie rod end part # will be:
35398684
This is for a 3/8 inch tie rod end, 3/8 inch fine female thread. No bushings will be needed. Again, you may need to go to the hardware store for bolts on the outers, or may not, depending on your machine.
The only other consideration is that since these are heavy-duty ends, they are slightly larger than the stockers. If you have oversized tires that almost rub the ends, they may touch these. I would say you lose just under 1/4 inch of clearance between the tie rod end and tire (my guess). These are super-strength ends, with teflon bearings, and will definately outlast the stockers. I triple checked the part numbers, and sure hope I got them all right, but measuring the tie rod ends is up to you.
UPDATE
The OUTER tie rod ends on the older machines, the ones with the 3/8 inch tie rod, can also use part # 35398783
This tie rod end will have a stud where it fits into the strut, instead of just an eye. It will be similar to the original equipment like what is on my brother's '95 Xpress, and won't need an additional bolt for it's use.
Also, if you order anything from MSC, be sure to ask them to include a copy of their BIG book. Has more stuff like this (and bearings, tools, etc, etc) than you can shake a stick at. To give you an idea of just how much stuff they have in the book (also available on CD) the tie rod ends are on page 3798
They also have a website, if you want pictures of what the parts look like, you can go to http://www.mscdirect.com/
The Polaris part #s for the outer tie rod end, 1/2 inch tie rod is 7061033
which has been updated to Polaris # 7061054
The Polaris part # for the inner tie rod end, 1/2 inch is 7061034
I don't have the part #s for the 3/8 inch tie rod.
Remember that the 1/2 inch tie rod ends need the bushings in them, as the eye diameter is bigger than the mounting bolt. The MSC part #s are in my previous post.
I might also add that on some (especially older) machines, the inner tie rods may be a tight fit. You can get them to work by 'staggering' them, as they do on the newer machines. They put one end between the ears on the steering post, and use a longer bolt (with a spacer between the ears so they won't crush) and put the other end beneath the ears. This should give enough clearance to make it work. I thought I would add this as my Xplorer already had them 'staggered' from the factory, but brother's older Xpress had both between the ears on the steering post.
