Sprinter, I get your point, don't judge the kid by his birth certificate, but by the same token, not every 14 yr old has your ability either...who can decide how much ability/judgement is enough?


Quote"going up teh road durring the winter when i am standing up i can make the rear axle slide right and left back and forth 4 feet while going strait not that slick of a road eather so a kid standing up is equivelent to and adult sitting down."

Now theres some good judgment for ya! Going down the ROAD, standing up. swinging the rear end back and forth!

Sorry Sprinter, I don't mean to pick on you, but I hope you can see my point!

 

I have yet to find a need for low range on the 300! You can check out my pics page, this little machine goes anywhere the big boys go and easier since it weighs so much less! Muds over the fenders and pulls a loaded trailer from time to time...it did fine hauling sand bags in the recent flood waters here with water to the fenders!

 

Maturity is the key here. Doesn't matter if the machine is too big, if he's mature, he won't get onto the danger situations because he KNOWS he can't handle it. If you have any doubt at all on his maturity level, opt for a smaller machine. That being said, when the hormones take over and they feel the need to spread their wings, you need to watch them closer. Watch how their freinds ride(and conduct themselves). That will tell you ALOT about how your kid is going to act(drive) when you're not around.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Snortwheeze

Maturity is the key here. Doesn't matter if the machine is too big, if he's mature, he won't get onto the danger situations because he KNOWS he can't handle it. If you have any doubt at all on his maturity level, opt for a smaller machine. That being said, when the hormones take over and they feel the need to spread their wings, you need to watch them closer. Watch how their freinds ride(and conduct themselves). That will tell you ALOT about how your kid is going to act(drive) when you're not around.</end quote></div>

ok heres what ive made up from wathin videos. take a 6 foot stick and see how deep the stuff is. snow water mud. also ill only go up to my tires in mud snow or water.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: shank0668

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Snortwheeze



Maturity is the key here. Doesn't matter if the machine is too big, if he's mature, he won't get onto the danger situations because he KNOWS he can't handle it. If you have any doubt at all on his maturity level, opt for a smaller machine. That being said, when the hormones take over and they feel the need to spread their wings, you need to watch them closer. Watch how their freinds ride(and conduct themselves). That will tell you ALOT about how your kid is going to act(drive) when you're not around.</end quote></div>



ok heres what ive made up from wathin videos. take a 6 foot stick and see how deep the stuff is. snow water mud. also ill only go up to my tires in mud snow or water.</end quote></div>

but if people go infront of me ill see if they make it easily and if they do i will follow

 

i liked the 500 but now im likin the 300. smaller seat easier controls and it doesnt have a huge amount of power

 

personally if I had enough doubt in my mind to need to seek the advice of others as to whether or not the kid should ride the 500 I wouldn't. Your kid may be pissed for a while but the consequences otherwise ARE PERMANENT. There are plenty of people who have said I shouldn't have done this or that. I realize that you cant live your life in a bubble or make your kids live that way but you cant risk their safety to give them something they may not need. They depend on you to keep them safe and in my opinion if you have ANY doubt you are obligated to err on the side of caution.

 

I can tell just by your reply that you're not mature enough for the larger machine. Getting through deep mud, snow, ect, will not hurt you if you don't make it, just makes for a miserale day. SPEED is the most important factor, along with entry and exit angles and the ability to recognize an upcoming danger zone that makes you mature enough for the higher powered machine. Do you're parents a favor and tell them you want a smaller machine.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jokout

Sprinter, I get your point, don't judge the kid by his birth certificate, but by the same token, not every 14 yr old has your ability either...who can decide how much ability/judgement is enough?





Quote"going up teh road durring the winter when i am standing up i can make the rear axle slide right and left back and forth 4 feet while going strait not that slick of a road eather so a kid standing up is equivelent to and adult sitting down."



Now theres some good judgment for ya! Going down the ROAD, standing up. swinging the rear end back and forth!



Sorry Sprinter, I don't mean to pick on you, but I hope you can see my point!</end quote></div>

I dont mean to sound negative but I pass on what I have learned through pain, no one is immune from gravity or momentum. I learned this myself 10 years ago and have to be searched at airports now because I cannot go through a metal detectors. Everyone thinks that it never will happen to them, but it does. 14 is pretty young to think that you have had all the broken bones and stitches you will ever get.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Snortwheeze

I can tell just by your reply that you're not mature enough for the larger machine. Getting through deep mud, snow, ect, will not hurt you if you don't make it, just makes for a miserale day. SPEED is the most important factor, along with entry and exit angles and the ability to recognize an upcoming danger zone that makes you mature enough for the higher powered machine. Do you're parents a favor and tell them you want a smaller machine.</end quote></div>

hmm lets see dont go up really steep stuff, always go for the easiest and the least steepest rout. hmm lean forword if going up and backword if going down hill. i have quick reaction time. i was riding a 90 full speed and saw a huge hole and i was quick enough to barey dodge it. oh and dont ramp. dont go fast into a mud hole. if you see a ledge infront of you stomp on the foot brake. when getting stuck jump up and down on the back and in awd jump up and down in the front.