2017 Quad Start Problem
#11
Hit the switch nothing happens (not cranking) like the switch is not working and that is with the machine in park and the hand brake tight. The dealer replaced the switch thinking that was the problem. You can try 3-4 times and it won't start. Go out an hour later do the same thing and bam it starts. All the neighbors familiar with this problem are just shaking their heads and most have been using Polaris for years.
Most here that I know use the battery tender when the temps get below 10 (me for sure) or if the machine does not crank well.
I understand the reasoning behind moving the winch down and the radiator up but when using snow plows as we do you can't get the plow out of the snow with the winches mounted low. And all the other chores the winch is used for the high mounted winches work the best. In 10 years of use have never had that radiator plug with snow, ice, mod or grass and the quad is used everyday. Has 9400+ miles on it. Of course have never ran it into a mud hole to the handle bars either.
My neighbor and I were working on the road yesterday and that quad started 4 times so did not have to tow it back.
Thanks for the responses, they are appreciated
#12
Been reading about Rzrs and Ranger 570s going through similar problems. Both have larger batteries than the Sportsman,but have the same starter and sprague starter clutch also.Seems like the batteries would negate that area I would think.One other thing is I'm used to is an engine to frame ground strap,but can't find one.I may be missing it,but wondering if they're relying on just engine mounts alone. Just throwing this out there.
#13
Thanks
Never gave the ground a thought. My 2007 has a ground wire directly from the battery fasten to the frame then continues on down and fastens to one of the mounting bolts on the starter. Will have the neighbor check that. A loose connection would cause what is going on but the Polaris mechanic would have checked that wouldn't you think?
Any more ideas anybody?
Never gave the ground a thought. My 2007 has a ground wire directly from the battery fasten to the frame then continues on down and fastens to one of the mounting bolts on the starter. Will have the neighbor check that. A loose connection would cause what is going on but the Polaris mechanic would have checked that wouldn't you think?
Any more ideas anybody?
#14
Found it or it says it's the ground strap. Small lead item#8. Still wouldn't hurt to grind down the frame or any ground points just to eliminate that. Plus seems like the common denominator between all three,Sportsman,Ranger and Rzr was that they had to cycle the switch on and off several times. Possibly has to do that for the fuel pump to catch up because of the temp or something of that nature. Just fishing around again.
#15
Myself , I would eliminate the brake interlock , there's lots of posts on other forums about people having problems with the brake switch causing this problem . At least do it to prove whether or not it's the problem . Use a blue Scotchlok crimp splice on the negative wire right on the starter solenoid to ground .
#16
Again Thanks
When this first started and before we hauled it into the shop I showed up at his place and he said it would not start. I turned the key on and off quickly about 4-6 times and it cranked and started. Later he said it cranked but would not start. Let it set a few minutes tried it and it cranked and started he said. Next morning would not crank. Then it went to the shop. Now that quad sits outside but is mostly covered so things will get cold. You know he never complained about this problem when it was warm...food for thought. I checked the battery when it was about 20 degrees and it was 13 volts so the battery is good even cold. What about the safety switch in the hand brake and the one when it's in park? Where is the hand brake safety switch located and could the temps effect their operation especially if snow was packed all around them?
He ran up here this morning and said it started right up..it's warmer 34 degrees and yesterday up on the road probably about the same. Has not been this warm for a month +. When it was in at Polaris it was in a warm shop and they could not find a problem.
More food for thought
Appreciate your time
When this first started and before we hauled it into the shop I showed up at his place and he said it would not start. I turned the key on and off quickly about 4-6 times and it cranked and started. Later he said it cranked but would not start. Let it set a few minutes tried it and it cranked and started he said. Next morning would not crank. Then it went to the shop. Now that quad sits outside but is mostly covered so things will get cold. You know he never complained about this problem when it was warm...food for thought. I checked the battery when it was about 20 degrees and it was 13 volts so the battery is good even cold. What about the safety switch in the hand brake and the one when it's in park? Where is the hand brake safety switch located and could the temps effect their operation especially if snow was packed all around them?
He ran up here this morning and said it started right up..it's warmer 34 degrees and yesterday up on the road probably about the same. Has not been this warm for a month +. When it was in at Polaris it was in a warm shop and they could not find a problem.
More food for thought
Appreciate your time
#17
Next time it happens , unplug the starter solenoid , have someone hold it to crank , put a meter on the two leads and see which polarity is no getting there , then you'll know which way to look . One wire should read +12 volts to ground , the other should should show zero ohms to ground .
#18
Myself , I would eliminate the brake interlock , there's lots of posts on other forums about people having problems with the brake switch causing this problem . At least do it to prove whether or not it's the problem . Use a blue Scotchlok crimp splice on the negative wire right on the starter solenoid to ground .
Appreciate your response
#20
That is the exact reason they flipped the rad/winch location for MY 11. I love my 12 400HO and will not be giving it up anytime soon. The new rad location is superior to the older location.