Problem found on the Magnum 500
#12
prospector,
The dodge/cummins combo used a manifold heater, vs. the glow plugs in a PSD(powerstroke diesel). The manifold heater from what I understand is a grid that gets red hot(like glow plugs) and gives the DC(dodge cummins) a warm gulp of air to aid in start up. Your mileage is considered "normal" for a 24V cummins. The older(89-98) 12V cummins made excellent mileage, but not 18 mpg towing. They could easily achieve 20mpg solo though.
Are you a member of the TDR?
rooster,
your mistaken on the HP remark, todays diesels are making lots of it. For example the GM/Isuzu combo due out this fall will be rated at 300hp and 520 ft-lbs. The ETH dodge cummins will be rated at 245hp and 505 ft-lbs. And Ford is still at 235hp and 500 ft-lbs.
Now for $375 I bought a computer chip for my for my Ford which brought me up too 300hp and 650 ft-lbs. The dodges also have add on devices that bring them up to some very impressive numbers aswell.
However diesel are not for everyone, like you said. I'm just trying to clear things up alittle.
Hope this helps
Jeremy
99 SP 500
99 F250 Powerstoke
94 f250 7.3 turbo diesel
83 f250 6.9 diesel
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The dodge/cummins combo used a manifold heater, vs. the glow plugs in a PSD(powerstroke diesel). The manifold heater from what I understand is a grid that gets red hot(like glow plugs) and gives the DC(dodge cummins) a warm gulp of air to aid in start up. Your mileage is considered "normal" for a 24V cummins. The older(89-98) 12V cummins made excellent mileage, but not 18 mpg towing. They could easily achieve 20mpg solo though.
Are you a member of the TDR?
rooster,
your mistaken on the HP remark, todays diesels are making lots of it. For example the GM/Isuzu combo due out this fall will be rated at 300hp and 520 ft-lbs. The ETH dodge cummins will be rated at 245hp and 505 ft-lbs. And Ford is still at 235hp and 500 ft-lbs.
Now for $375 I bought a computer chip for my for my Ford which brought me up too 300hp and 650 ft-lbs. The dodges also have add on devices that bring them up to some very impressive numbers aswell.
However diesel are not for everyone, like you said. I'm just trying to clear things up alittle.
Hope this helps
Jeremy
99 SP 500
99 F250 Powerstoke
94 f250 7.3 turbo diesel
83 f250 6.9 diesel
[This message has been edited by JeremyB (edited 01-06-2000).]
#15
TDR ?? nope, I guess not. Tell me more!
... er, a quick search of the web and I found it ..tbundrick@cos.wantweb.net
Web Site: <a href="http://marina.fortunecity.com//victory/272/index.html">http://marina.fortunecity.com//victory/272/index.html</a>
[This message has been edited by Prospector (edited 01-06-2000).]
... er, a quick search of the web and I found it ..tbundrick@cos.wantweb.net
Web Site: <a href="http://marina.fortunecity.com//victory/272/index.html">http://marina.fortunecity.com//victory/272/index.html</a>
[This message has been edited by Prospector (edited 01-06-2000).]
#16
Yes the Cummins ( definitely not a Dodge motor!) is in marine applications & construction making 700 lbs of torque reliably. Quite amazing. Of course I still smile when I think my IH is the only truck company to truely use truck engines in their small trucks. (Except for the Detriot in older chevys , Ford uses IH & Dodge Cummins) but none of the big 3 had what it takes to build a real truck motor.
Remember even 454s & 460s are CAR engines. My 345 is in dump trucks, straight trucks & even 10 ton military vehicles. If you want a gas motor that goes 250,000 + miles between rebuilds buy an IH. They have a high nickle content in the block. Seems to make them last. If you ever get a chance to see one torn down the internal parts dwarf a 350 Chevys or 351 Fords. Big, Big parts in there.
It's a shame chicks started to drive trucks all the time. Now IH is out of the small market and the Scout was the 1st true SUV! Too bad there aren't here now. I'd trade in my Grand Cherokee V-8 in second!
c-ya,
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Andrew Thomas
'99 Scrambler 400 & '99 Trailblazer, both with RCR mods.
Remember even 454s & 460s are CAR engines. My 345 is in dump trucks, straight trucks & even 10 ton military vehicles. If you want a gas motor that goes 250,000 + miles between rebuilds buy an IH. They have a high nickle content in the block. Seems to make them last. If you ever get a chance to see one torn down the internal parts dwarf a 350 Chevys or 351 Fords. Big, Big parts in there.
It's a shame chicks started to drive trucks all the time. Now IH is out of the small market and the Scout was the 1st true SUV! Too bad there aren't here now. I'd trade in my Grand Cherokee V-8 in second!
c-ya,
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Andrew Thomas
'99 Scrambler 400 & '99 Trailblazer, both with RCR mods.
#17
I have 99 Dodge quad cab 4x4 with a 5.9 liter
I sure wish that I had sprung for the Cummins. I only get 10-11 mpg in town and 12-14 on the highway. This is unloaded, when pulling 5000 lbs.it drops to 7-8. Like I said if I had it to do over again I would go for the Cummins turbo diesel.( I do however really like the truck other than the crappy fuel mileage)
I sure wish that I had sprung for the Cummins. I only get 10-11 mpg in town and 12-14 on the highway. This is unloaded, when pulling 5000 lbs.it drops to 7-8. Like I said if I had it to do over again I would go for the Cummins turbo diesel.( I do however really like the truck other than the crappy fuel mileage)
#20
What the he** do you guys do that you can
afford such nice trucks!?
I thought I was doing ok, *$#%(crap) I have a pos dodge stratus and jeep that probably gets the same gas/fuel milage as your F250.
Does anbody have a F150 Northland Edition? I was looking at those last month, pretty nice but spendy for a truck.
afford such nice trucks!?
I thought I was doing ok, *$#%(crap) I have a pos dodge stratus and jeep that probably gets the same gas/fuel milage as your F250.
Does anbody have a F150 Northland Edition? I was looking at those last month, pretty nice but spendy for a truck.


