Guess you didn't bother to look at the link. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

i think the ltr 450 is a better all around bike period. if you're gonna spend money buy the best i bought a kfx 400 last year i was disappointed so i bought an ltr this month way better.

 

if on the trails you want a 400ex becuse z400s are liquid cooled so they boil over or the run out wicth is a pain so even though it is not as fast as the z i pick 400ex if you mod it out it will smoke a z any day

 

I have both!! Im a pretty big guy who likes to go fast so I got the Raptor 700, my wife is tall and skinny and a little new to riding so I got her the Z400. The Z is easier to haul *** down tight trails because of its better suspension and is easy to operate for beginners. The Raptor goes fast everywhere, but can be a handful on the tight trails if you let your speed get too high. Which is easy with so much on tap! I don't feel its tipsy at all! It will tear up the dunes also. I have no problems with the z in the sand either, just keep the r's up and your good to go. Both bikes have a seemingly endless aftermarket so the sky's the limit with mods! Judging off your size I would think the z would suit you a little better. Either way you'll have a blast!!

 

OK to set the record right if you do not have IMS foot pegs and a full new front end i shoks elka what ever it might be you will never keep up with guys who do bottom line with the foot pegs and new front end woops in fith gear smilling at ltz450r and trx 450r and yfz450r is nothing but a walk in the the park plus let say something about egine size it does matter sorry guys lol z400 wow i blow past that crowd in 3rd and 4th gear mostly very funny never mind a nice open striaght away with some nice mid to deep woops um for get it you see nothing but dust as i jump every other woop in 4th gear seeya BOTTOM LINE nothing stock on any machine can compete against full new front ends the ride with these kits is just to dam good not to mention the width up front for cornering ya see handling matters and the nicer your front end soaks up the bumps the faster you can go plus everyody do your self a favor and get some IMS ROLL foot pegs then you might stand a chance of staying on you machine hae a nice ride

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: hondaguy_400ex

if on the trails you want a 400ex becuse z400s are liquid cooled so they boil over or the run out wicth is a pain so even though it is not as fast as the z i pick 400ex if you mod it out it will smoke a z any day</end quote></div>

What!!!!! Where are you getting this from? I ride the **** out off my DVX400 about once a week on trails. I have front tires full of plugs and front rims dying to be replaced. I have never had my coolant spill over. As for a 400ex smoking a Z? Ya, that will be the day!

 

with 3 years under my belt riding the heck out of my Z on really 90 degree days never even a hint of over heating ,and you don't hurt for power from heat loss to the motor (aka air cooled )

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: give me a break

OK to set the record right if you do not have IMS foot pegs and a full new front end i shoks elka what ever it might be you will never keep up with guys who do bottom line with the foot pegs and new front end woops in fith gear smilling at ltz450r and trx 450r and yfz450r is nothing but a walk in the the park plus let say something about egine size it does matter sorry guys lol z400 wow i blow past that crowd in 3rd and 4th gear mostly very funny never mind a nice open striaght away with some nice mid to deep woops um for get it you see nothing but dust as i jump every other woop in 4th gear seeya BOTTOM LINE nothing stock on any machine can compete against full new front ends the ride with these kits is just to dam good not to mention the width up front for cornering ya see handling matters and the nicer your front end soaks up the bumps the faster you can go plus everyody do your self a favor and get some IMS ROLL foot pegs then you might stand a chance of staying on you machine hae a nice ride</end quote></div>

Why would I need IMS FOOTPEGS? Or why would I need ELka/i-shock/works etc?
Lets start with IMS , I don't need them , A Dremel will do wonders on foot pegs(end of subject). The shock thing ,well I agree with you , but most people really don't worry about that. What I me is , Anybody going through whoops in 5th gear is really only skimming the top of them. Well at least that whats I do in 4th gear. If you have stock piggyback shocks and you dial them in ,they can be just as effective. It just goes to show that you will probably buy anything the aftermarket tries to sell ya!!!

 

Airmobil Sorry not even close in response to your post. I have only replaced every thing that failed or broke and in doing so i have begun to notice that with out key parts of the puzzle for going fast to do so can be done but not nearly as safe or fun. knowing full well that the gear you depend on is not hacked with dremel tools and is a far cry from oem gear {foot pegs , shifters , tires , axles, front ends ,fitlers , exhuast stytems ,bearings andmore if i really wanted to list it all but my point is that with out upgrading with gear that is frankly designed better you can't be that much faster then a good rider on a really nice machine so good luck with the dremel tool p.s. i live in northern california if you are ever in the area IM me i'll take ya riding peace

 

with your size, id get the z