Top of the list is reverse. If it don't, get one with it or wait for next year model. I have a 05 tld and the reverse make riding awesome. I did make the right choice when I got mine. Once the shocks get adjusted it is one hell of a ride. JMO

 

hello ieverybody just joined the forum today.... and to answer the question... for the kind of ridding you said he does.. the ds will be the best choice.. i never liked the ds. (until i rode a friends) now i am going crazy trying to find a way to get one....

 

Never count out a ds in the woods, I loved mine untill I got my yfz, the yam. is just a lot less work for an old guy. My riding bud has a predaturd and it is a very nice all around quad, he keeps me on my toes at all times! Never rode a z400, don't know anything about them. Good luck making a decision.

 

For trail ridin, go with the Pred. I like that quad. If you are ridin in more opener place's go with the big bore.

 

The polaris is the best all around bike and it will beat most stock quads i have raced 660, ds, and z400 and beat all of them and i have a stock TLE predator it is a great track bike and has the best turning of all of these bikes it also is a good jumping bike. It may be a few pounds heavier than the z400 but it makes up for that in power.

 

i have both the z and the new 2005 tle predator...i have spent 5,000 dollars on my z...and my stock predator smoked it..but now my predator isnt stock i have HMF full system exhaust ..ac propeg nerf bars...bumber..skidplates...and a few other things..but anyways the predator is the bike for anyone..the ds is just a bike for the baja 1000 race..and u will have to spend a lot on the z just to keep up with the predator..if u want to contact me..my aol name Big Juiced

 

I own the 05 predator LE and I have no regrets at all. It doesnt do anything bad at all. Matter of fact it is great on everything. I jump mine, climb huge dunes and trail ride with it. I know the yzf 450 has more power on top but that is stock yzf 450 compared to stock Pred ltd or standard. The LE comes with the PP exhaust which gives it a couple of extra hp so it is much closer. Then drop in the k&N and a few extra disks and it moves. And you have to love the Reverse!

 

I was tryin to follow my friends banshee through the woods and i was havin some problems. It was a very narrow trail, with the shee just barely makin it through a couple trees every now and then. Then came me on a DS. The wide axles don't help out much.

 

I would probably go with the predator.

 

dsaddicted u need to do research!all models of the predator come with braided steel brake cables and great suspension and tires.o and the kawi and suzuki r the same bike.and djm137 get a preddy i ride my dads and am getting one in a few months. its faster than the z, idk about the ds's speed but ive seen a preddy whoop a ds but it may have been the rider.and get the standard model preddy cuz it doea better in the wide open fields.