400ex vs Scrambler
#41
Originally posted by: Carbonfist
My younger brother had the exact same year 400EX, and it suffered from the exact same lame torque.
My younger brother had the exact same year 400EX, and it suffered from the exact same lame torque.
And as for the Poo-laris being a better multi-functional sport quad? The EX would out perform any 600lb quad around turns anyday. Depends on your riding style and terrain as to what's best. I for one would never be happy with a scrambler, but I don't come on here and blame the manufacturer and call it a pos either.
#42
You obviously half read things, and are somewhat a drama-queen. I'm not down on Honda, but dis-satisfied with a single/particular product they produced. Maybe somewhere in your paranoid tunnel-vision you may have caught a glimpse of where I said "I've loved honda for years"??? If you didn't catch that, then maybe you'd like for me to upload some pics of my new 450...HONDA!!!
I never said ANYTHING remotely close to the WARRIOR being a better handling ATV. It is in fact plagued with the same ill-handling as the Banshee and Blaster both. What I did say was that I found it to be a much better HILL quad. For the limited comprehension @ mind, what I ment by that was that it was much more forgiving of lower RPM's while climbing in second gear. Finally, if you really think that the 400EX is a better multi-sport/purpose quad than the Scrambler, well, dude, I want your connection, cause that's some really good stuff you're smoking!
And you can dream whatever you want to dream, but the 400EX has squishy power/torque. Or maybe you just have never been on a REAL high-output machine before? I'd seriously hate to think that you see that quad as one of the torquers, but if you do, I'd like to invite you to my place and I can set you lose on a couple of machines that will give you a new way of looking at things.
However, if you like the 400EX, there's nothing wrong with that. I don't have to like it for you to like it. I guess the main point I was trying to make was that I know for a complete fact that the stock 400 just isn't going to best a stock Scram in a drag.
If you'd really like to get an idea of what the 400EX is missing from it's *****, go ride 400 Suzuki/Kaw/Cat (One in the same, but still)
I won't try to debate it with you anymore. I'm not into the whole internet argument thing. Besides, I've probably wore-out more quads than you're ever going to even sit on, so I'm confident in my assessment.
I never said ANYTHING remotely close to the WARRIOR being a better handling ATV. It is in fact plagued with the same ill-handling as the Banshee and Blaster both. What I did say was that I found it to be a much better HILL quad. For the limited comprehension @ mind, what I ment by that was that it was much more forgiving of lower RPM's while climbing in second gear. Finally, if you really think that the 400EX is a better multi-sport/purpose quad than the Scrambler, well, dude, I want your connection, cause that's some really good stuff you're smoking!
And you can dream whatever you want to dream, but the 400EX has squishy power/torque. Or maybe you just have never been on a REAL high-output machine before? I'd seriously hate to think that you see that quad as one of the torquers, but if you do, I'd like to invite you to my place and I can set you lose on a couple of machines that will give you a new way of looking at things.
However, if you like the 400EX, there's nothing wrong with that. I don't have to like it for you to like it. I guess the main point I was trying to make was that I know for a complete fact that the stock 400 just isn't going to best a stock Scram in a drag.
If you'd really like to get an idea of what the 400EX is missing from it's *****, go ride 400 Suzuki/Kaw/Cat (One in the same, but still)
I won't try to debate it with you anymore. I'm not into the whole internet argument thing. Besides, I've probably wore-out more quads than you're ever going to even sit on, so I'm confident in my assessment.
#43
Sorry if I half read things. Your long winded posts get pretty d@mn boring after the first few lines.
I'll take handling over who's fastest in a drag anyday. If you'd gone back and read I already stated that a modified scrambler would beat an EX in a drag. I never argued that point. BUT the scrambler is a tank and doesn't handle for chit. If all you care about is going in a straight line or if you think a little more power can compensate for lack of rider ability then I can see where you're coming from.
And the Z's are pretty slow too.
I'll take handling over who's fastest in a drag anyday. If you'd gone back and read I already stated that a modified scrambler would beat an EX in a drag. I never argued that point. BUT the scrambler is a tank and doesn't handle for chit. If all you care about is going in a straight line or if you think a little more power can compensate for lack of rider ability then I can see where you're coming from.
And the Z's are pretty slow too.
#44
Originally posted by: ajd187
Wow there really is a thread arguing this that has several posts.
Guys the Polaris is a 570 lb 4wd monster that is good at....ummm.......
<crickets>
Well I guess maybe it has good top speed. And it's probably excellent at breaking down. It is a Polaris after all.
The 400EX is one of the best all around sport quads ever.
If you drag race them I would imagine the 400EX will lose but in any other race it should be light years ahead. Try taking that Scrambler around an MX track. You'll probably be Scrambling to keep it from tipping as you two wheel through corners.
Wow there really is a thread arguing this that has several posts.
Guys the Polaris is a 570 lb 4wd monster that is good at....ummm.......
<crickets>
Well I guess maybe it has good top speed. And it's probably excellent at breaking down. It is a Polaris after all.
The 400EX is one of the best all around sport quads ever.
If you drag race them I would imagine the 400EX will lose but in any other race it should be light years ahead. Try taking that Scrambler around an MX track. You'll probably be Scrambling to keep it from tipping as you two wheel through corners.
#45
Originally posted by: Raptorlegs
http://www.aaenperformance.com/Power400.asp
Just to give you an idea of what we're talking about.
http://www.aaenperformance.com/Power400.asp
Just to give you an idea of what we're talking about.
scrammy 400's that are modded are fast, end of story
#46
hey.. i own an 400ex .. and my friend owns a 400 scrambler... we always ride together... and no way it beat me... on a drag... is he front of me till i hit 2nd and sometime 3rd depand of wat were dragging.... top end he does 108km-h.. and that equal me when im 5th gear maybe half throttle maybe less... would smoke him about like 10 quad lenght on top end if not even more... and now with my pipe... well he's lost hehe
so yee and even trails.. ive try is quad and it the worst machien to ride in trails... so tipsy and no control... especially in winter.. that the worst
so no way a scrabler will beat a ex
anywyas sry for my grammar im a french kid lol
so yee and even trails.. ive try is quad and it the worst machien to ride in trails... so tipsy and no control... especially in winter.. that the worst
so no way a scrabler will beat a ex
anywyas sry for my grammar im a french kid lol
#47
I have a freind and I always win i ride a bycycle he rides a 5000cc crackhammer i never loose. Why is it no one ever looses and they have freinds they always beat? Sorry cant spell never went to school.
#48
Originally posted by: XtremeSkier
there not tippy at all if u know how to ride them
Originally posted by: ajd187
Wow there really is a thread arguing this that has several posts.
Guys the Polaris is a 570 lb 4wd monster that is good at....ummm.......
<crickets>
Well I guess maybe it has good top speed. And it's probably excellent at breaking down. It is a Polaris after all.
The 400EX is one of the best all around sport quads ever.
If you drag race them I would imagine the 400EX will lose but in any other race it should be light years ahead. Try taking that Scrambler around an MX track. You'll probably be Scrambling to keep it from tipping as you two wheel through corners.
Wow there really is a thread arguing this that has several posts.
Guys the Polaris is a 570 lb 4wd monster that is good at....ummm.......
<crickets>
Well I guess maybe it has good top speed. And it's probably excellent at breaking down. It is a Polaris after all.
The 400EX is one of the best all around sport quads ever.
If you drag race them I would imagine the 400EX will lose but in any other race it should be light years ahead. Try taking that Scrambler around an MX track. You'll probably be Scrambling to keep it from tipping as you two wheel through corners.
#49
Originally posted by: ridefastorbelast
hey.. i own an 400ex .. and my friend owns a 400 scrambler... we always ride together... and no way it beat me... on a drag... is he front of me till i hit 2nd and sometime 3rd depand of wat were dragging.... top end he does 108km-h.. and that equal me when im 5th gear maybe half throttle maybe less... would smoke him about like 10 quad lenght on top end if not even more... and now with my pipe... well he's lost hehe
so yee and even trails.. ive try is quad and it the worst machien to ride in trails... so tipsy and no control... especially in winter.. that the worst
so no way a scrabler will beat a ex
anywyas sry for my grammar im a french kid lol
hey.. i own an 400ex .. and my friend owns a 400 scrambler... we always ride together... and no way it beat me... on a drag... is he front of me till i hit 2nd and sometime 3rd depand of wat were dragging.... top end he does 108km-h.. and that equal me when im 5th gear maybe half throttle maybe less... would smoke him about like 10 quad lenght on top end if not even more... and now with my pipe... well he's lost hehe
so yee and even trails.. ive try is quad and it the worst machien to ride in trails... so tipsy and no control... especially in winter.. that the worst
so no way a scrabler will beat a ex
anywyas sry for my grammar im a french kid lol
This is why we make fun of Canadians. In no way will you beat a 400L 2X4 Scrambler or TB bone stock in a drag. The only chance you have is a lots of boring and all the goodies to go with it. And thats edging in it in drag then.


