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at the end of the swing arm where the axle goes through how many inches of ground clearence is there. on the suzuki site it says 9.4 inches but that is under the engine. the reason i ask is because i was looking in to buying one
if i were you i would stay with the z. the 450r needs a bigger tank if you want to ride on trails for more than an hour at least thats what dirtwheels said