1988 Suzuki LT-4WD No Spark!!!!!
Sep 9, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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Okay, I will try my best to redo the testing as you suggested, and provide you with accurate data. But I have to wonder if I can test the stator/magneto if the ATV isn't running. Also, can you provide me with directions for permanetly disabling the kill switch. If I can disable the kill switch, I can afford to purchase a new ignition switch. (I cannot afford both)
When the quad was running today it stalled while I was driving it. It never did that before!
It was a bear to start,, but finally fired up with the b/y wire connector disconnected at the CDI. I had to plug it back in to turn the engine off. That's a PITA!
Why can't this be an easy fix?????
Jackie (bowing to the ATV God)
When the quad was running today it stalled while I was driving it. It never did that before!
It was a bear to start,, but finally fired up with the b/y wire connector disconnected at the CDI. I had to plug it back in to turn the engine off. That's a PITA!
Why can't this be an easy fix?????
Jackie (bowing to the ATV God)
1: It's a safety issue. You've already been there, what if you were in gear with a stuck throttle cable?
2: Every time you disconnect the B/Y connector to the CDI you ARE disabling the kill switch, but the problem isn't solved...
If you are going to buy an ignition switch check out bikebandit, I hear they're cheaper than the dealer.
Sep 10, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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Sep 10, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Whew Ken... I thought I lost ya!
When the ATV wouldn't shut off, I cannot believe that I didn't think about hitting the kill switch! Geeze Louise!
Since I pulled the spark plug wire off the plug to stop the engine, it won't start. I turn the key on and the neutral light won't even light, nor will the starter spin. Nothing... NADA!
Maybe it had to break completely before it could be fixed???????? Well, I think it's broken enough now!
Where do I start now? New ignition switch?
Thanks,
Jackie
When the ATV wouldn't shut off, I cannot believe that I didn't think about hitting the kill switch! Geeze Louise!
Since I pulled the spark plug wire off the plug to stop the engine, it won't start. I turn the key on and the neutral light won't even light, nor will the starter spin. Nothing... NADA!
Maybe it had to break completely before it could be fixed???????? Well, I think it's broken enough now!
Where do I start now? New ignition switch?
Thanks,
Jackie
Make sure that is operating and not short/open at the wrong time..
Sep 12, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Ya know, the ignition switch is just about the only electrical part that hasn't been replaced. I took it apart, and it's just sooooo simple. JUst a bunch of contacts that are connected or disconnected by another contact as you turn the key. I cleaned the contacts off when I disassembled it, and I honestly cannot see how it "couldn't" work. But.... if you think this may be the culprit, I'll get a new one. I'm just so damn frustrated with this thing! It's wearing me down to the point of actually forgetting to put gas in the damn thing! LOL! The other day when I said it died when I was driving it, was because I was actually ran out of gas! See..... I told ya, it's driving me CRAZY!
I am going to have help with the electrical testing on Monday, so I will post the results then.
However, for your reading pleasure, I will tell you how the ATV ran today:
It started well. I drove it up to my neighbors where it stalled and would not start for about 5 minutes. This was with the B/Y wire disconnected. I started it, drove it about 100 feet and allowed it to idle. It stalled again. Eventually, it restarted and I drove it home. Later in the day, I disconnected ALL the B/Y connectors and it idled perfectly! I drove it all over, and allowed it to idle for at least 5 minutes. (I honestly thought I was on to something!!!!!) But of course, it would not shut off, so I had to connect all the B/Y connectors to shut if off. Now, with all the connectors CONNECTED it started and idled perfectly..... GGGGrrrrrrrrrr
Jackie
Sep 12, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Hey Bashr52 :-)
The neutral switch was one of the 1st (of many parts) I replaced on the ATV. The only thing I haven't replaced is the ignition switch.
Thanks!
Jackie
Sep 12, 2009 | 05:12 PM
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The neutral switch has been replaced.. I will double check it on Monday to make sure it is operating properly.
Thanks,
Jackie
Sep 13, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Jackie,
The ignition switch may look all good inside, but if there may be a small internal short or something that you can't see. With use/vibration something may be making contact just enough to short out the spark. Or if you shut it off with the kill switch, sliding the switch may open the short as well, and cause a non-spark issue. Next time it does it, try sliding the kill switch back and forth a few times to see if it may loosen up whatever is stuck (assuming thats how it was shut off, and thats what's going on). I'd replace the switch and see what that does anyway, about your only option left!
The ignition switch may look all good inside, but if there may be a small internal short or something that you can't see. With use/vibration something may be making contact just enough to short out the spark. Or if you shut it off with the kill switch, sliding the switch may open the short as well, and cause a non-spark issue. Next time it does it, try sliding the kill switch back and forth a few times to see if it may loosen up whatever is stuck (assuming thats how it was shut off, and thats what's going on). I'd replace the switch and see what that does anyway, about your only option left!
Sep 13, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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+1 on this. a ignition switch is the first place to look for all no spark issues! if the quad turns over but has no spark it is generally a ignition issue. Seth 03
Sep 13, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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I tried yesterday to purchase a new ignition switch at Bike Bandit, and this was part of the email I got from them:
"Thanks for writing in! Unfortunately, the part you inquired about has been Discontinued and is no longer available for purchase from the manufacturer. Since BikeBandit.com is unable to supply parts that have been Discontinued, we suggest checking Ebay or online salvage yards for the part."
I'm going to try Babbitts. and MotorSports Super Center next. Any other suggestions on where to purchase an ignition switch at a decent price?
(SURE... I finally give in and agree to buy a darn switch, and now I can't find one!)
Thanks Everyone! You guys ROCK!
Jackie
"Thanks for writing in! Unfortunately, the part you inquired about has been Discontinued and is no longer available for purchase from the manufacturer. Since BikeBandit.com is unable to supply parts that have been Discontinued, we suggest checking Ebay or online salvage yards for the part."
I'm going to try Babbitts. and MotorSports Super Center next. Any other suggestions on where to purchase an ignition switch at a decent price?
(SURE... I finally give in and agree to buy a darn switch, and now I can't find one!)
Thanks Everyone! You guys ROCK!
Jackie