Quadzilla revisited...
#1
I have a serious itch right now to start a LT500 project.
I would like as much good info as I can get in regards to best year to look for/avoid, fair price to pay, motor builders to avoid, common problems with the Zilla and fixes for those.
My intentioin is to build a hill shooter, using the OE frame if possible, run alcohol, +swingarm, ect., ect. Any set-up suggestions (carb/pipe?)
Been to Mr Dune's Zilla project page and got a semi going, any other info would be much appreciated.
I would like as much good info as I can get in regards to best year to look for/avoid, fair price to pay, motor builders to avoid, common problems with the Zilla and fixes for those.
My intentioin is to build a hill shooter, using the OE frame if possible, run alcohol, +swingarm, ect., ect. Any set-up suggestions (carb/pipe?)
Been to Mr Dune's Zilla project page and got a semi going, any other info would be much appreciated.
#2
Well, I just decided to start building a Zilla to,I found a frame, a arms, axle, tires and wheels, and shocks, and misc. parts for $400. From what I am told the 87 Zilla's were the bad years because of the head studs and something else, but I can't remember, I think it was a arms that changed? I don't really know about the engine builders though. Good luck.
#3
The 87's had a square-tubed upper A-arms, a 6-stud head design, and a larger reed cage. 88 and up have 7 stud heads, round tubed A-arms, and a smaller reed cage. If your building a hill shooter, you'd probably want an O-ringed cool head, so the head gasket wouldn't be a prob, the A-arms wouldn't make much of a diff, but there are more aftermarket reedcages for the 88 and up jugs, and the most popular carb/pipe set-up seems to be a Paul Turner pipe and a Kiehin 39mm PWK(at least I think its the PWK)
#4
I have the 87, and as of yet I have not had major problems, but it is true about the 6-stud head, go for 88 or above. On the O-ring head, remember that the original gasket had specific holes for cooling, so when you use an O-ring I beleive you need to have windows cut into the piston to get the same cooling.
#5
I can't speak for zoo, buy with my o-ring head I did not have any "windows" cut in my piston. I own a 1987 zilla and had the stock head o-ringed rather than buy a cool head.
AZ400L, stay away from Jerry Hall motors. They are located here in town and the "scary Jerry" reputation he has lives up to it. My motor was a complete grenade and I ended up redoing everything.
I use a +2 Laeger swingarm with a 2+2 Durablue axle. I have a Kehin PJ 38 carb and it is a pain in the neck. It seems like week to week I am changing needles, pilots and mains trying to get the thing dialed in right. I would like to run alcohol in it when I go to the dunes but don't know enough about it. Do we have any alcohol experts in here (and I don't mean beer drinking because we are all experts on that)?
AZ400L, stay away from Jerry Hall motors. They are located here in town and the "scary Jerry" reputation he has lives up to it. My motor was a complete grenade and I ended up redoing everything.
I use a +2 Laeger swingarm with a 2+2 Durablue axle. I have a Kehin PJ 38 carb and it is a pain in the neck. It seems like week to week I am changing needles, pilots and mains trying to get the thing dialed in right. I would like to run alcohol in it when I go to the dunes but don't know enough about it. Do we have any alcohol experts in here (and I don't mean beer drinking because we are all experts on that)?
#6
Thanks for the update on the info LT5001987, the info I sputtered out was what I was told and a seperate article I read. I try to be careful not to state things as fact, when I'm not sure or when it comes from a not-so reliable source. Thanks for setting it straight.
Have you had any problems since you've O-ringed the head?
Have you had any problems since you've O-ringed the head?
#7
Zoo
Yes, I have had problems, but none of them related to the o-ring head. This is a much better solution than the stock head gasket. Some folks have had good luck with copper head gaskets. May want to try that.
Yes, I have had problems, but none of them related to the o-ring head. This is a much better solution than the stock head gasket. Some folks have had good luck with copper head gaskets. May want to try that.
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#8
I was actually thinking about going with a powerhead O-ringed.
I can actually say that even with the stock head gasket I haven't had any problems, I am pretty consistant about re-torquing the head from time to time, and I've always rode my Zilla like it was stolen, (hard and fast).
I can actually say that even with the stock head gasket I haven't had any problems, I am pretty consistant about re-torquing the head from time to time, and I've always rode my Zilla like it was stolen, (hard and fast).
#9
I have recently discovered a sure cure for LT500R head sealing problems. I got rid of my cylinder and head completely and have yet to experience any of the aforementioned leaks. While I was at it, I chucked my carburetor over the nearest fence for an additional weight savings. True, it isn't nearly as enjoyable having my bike towed behind a Yamaha Big Bear. However, the maintenance savings are unbelievable!
#10
AZ400L, I notice you mentioned Mr. Dune's Zilla project. That is a very informative and enjoyable to read article (even though I don't agree with every aspect). One thing you will want to ignore is the engine builder he chose. Read the Tudor's Performance thread on Performance Mods and Mechanical for a good reason to stay clear of them. I never felt the need for a signature until I made the mistake of dealing with these people. Tudor's is also a sponsor of "Quadzillathon" which you may have run across while searching the net. It is too bad that THE premier Quadzilla event is mared by this outfit.


