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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Those 8 foot decks will hold 4 atvs if you stand them on their end and tie them down that way. It will work.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Nope, not at all. Just giving some more info to try and get an idea of what I want to do. The reasons I am thinking of doing it myself, is that I haven't found a manufacturer who offers a unit that can haul 4 quads and still be under 7000# loaded. It seems to me like I can build my own that will haul 4 and be under 7000#.
Apparently you are planning on using a tow vehicle with a greater listed tow rating than the information you gave. The 7000# loaded weight is half a ton more than the maximum trailer weight you mentioned. If you are going to 7000# you will need a hitch rated for a minimum of 700# tongue weight to stay around the 10% rule. Of course if you can lighten the weight to the mentioned 6000# maximum weight then you can do with a 600# hitch weight. This brings up an interesting thought, what is the maximum allowed weight on the rear axle of the tow vehicle? If you add 600# to the hitch you will be adding more than that to the rear axle. With everyone on board how will the axle weight come out.

As Fourlix mentioned there are a few states that allow doubles in non-commercial vehicles. Not many folks have much experience pulling them and it is seldom you will find anyone who can back one up.

 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by: Shootecogo As Fourlix mentioned there are a few states that allow doubles in non-commercial vehicles. Not many folks have much experience pulling them and it is seldom you will find anyone who can back one up.
I don't think you can back them up more than a few feet. I'm considering adding a trailer to pull the Rhino to the rear of the toy hauler we're looking at. I can get two drag banshees in the hauler, the DS in the bed of the truck and we have a 10 foot trailer the Rhino would fit in. Just have to check the laws in MO, IL and OK.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by: 400CatDriver
Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Those 8 foot decks will hold 4 atvs if you stand them on their end and tie them down that way. It will work.
I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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One other thing that hasn't been mentioned...

Be careful with the published trailer capacity for the vehicle. Usually it is based on the gross combined weight rating minus the curb weight of the vehicle with no accessories and only about 160 pounds worth of driver.

If you carry passengers, camping gear, food, tools or whatever in the tow vehicle, the weight of the trailer you can tow without going over the GCWR will be reduced by the same weight...

Also, the published weight of vehicles and RV's tends to be way optimistically light...
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
I saw a TT made by Salem and another called Wildwood, same manufacturer, that had a side loading garage with a hoist already in it. You drive in two quads, tie them down, raise the lift, drive in two more and tie them down. Don't know what happened but they are not listed in their catalog this year. Maybe they quit making them. You might find one used though.

And I agree with the other guys that you going to exceed your tow vehicles capability. Be careful.

By the way, anyone looking for a lightweight trailer should take a look at the Tritons. I've looked at them and they are really well made.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
I saw a TT made by Salem and another called Wildwood, same manufacturer, that had a side loading garage with a hoist already in it. You drive in two quads, tie them down, raise the lift, drive in two more and tie them down. Don't know what happened but they are not listed in their catalog this year. Maybe they quit making them. You might find one used though.

And I agree with the other guys that you going to exceed your tow vehicles capability. Be careful.

By the way, anyone looking for a lightweight trailer should take a look at the Tritons. I've looked at them and they are really well made.
Saw a short thread in another forum about those trailers with the lift in them. Apparently the load was far enough back that they were having sever problems with a tail heavy trailer. Sounds like it would work if it had a sliding axle set under it to balance the trailer when loaded or empty. Sure can see where with a fixed axle set the tongue would be really heavy when the four quads were not in it.


 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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sliding axles....lift mechanisms.....equals weight. Double decker equals more wind resistance.
Keep it simple, keep it low, keep it light. And you are still going to need a truck to haul 4 quads and a camper.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Briman
Originally posted by: 400CatDriver
Originally posted by: Shootecogo
Yes those do look nice, but they only hold two wheelers. I want a trailer that can handle 4. Had anybody looked into the Keystone Hobbi series?
Those 8 foot decks will hold 4 atvs if you stand them on their end and tie them down that way. It will work.
I was actually thinking along the lines of building a raiseable platform on the deck that you could then drive 2 more under the 1st 2 and the deck their on. Rig up a few scissor lifts on either sides of the platform. We have a few at work and they easily lift 1500 lbs. I would probably use atv ramps for the decking as they are light yet durable, Brian
thats a good idea, the thing with it is that when you see it on a truck bed, very scary. I saw one last year and the height with the lift up to clear a quad and a quad on top will not be under low hanging power lines and some underpasses. keep that in mind when you rig this up, maybe a better way to do it is with a hand winch like a boat uses andhave it pivot up to the height you want and sit up.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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I have just never seen a great solution for me to haul 3 quads, a rhino and have the convenience of an RV all wrapped up in one. So far, the best bet I've had is my 28 foot enclosed and just stay at a motel. We usually just rent a house when we go to Waynoka to ride.

By the way, we didn't buy the Salem with the lift because of the weight distribution problem. That kind of scared me too.

 
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