Bad Bad Bad news for Ford
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Ford makes up 75% of Navistar's 6.4 liter sales. They do make many other engines.
Part of the dispute is apparently about Ford not wanting to pay a price increase for engines redesigned to meet 07 emissions. Diesel engines for everything else (including class 8's) went up hugely for 07...
I'd also heard (but don't know if it's true) that Ford supplied some of the fuel supply and/or programming for the 6.0, and that there is also some dispute about who's mistakes caused the 6.0 problems. Isn't the VT365 in the Internatioal 4200 the basically the same engine?
Part of the dispute is apparently about Ford not wanting to pay a price increase for engines redesigned to meet 07 emissions. Diesel engines for everything else (including class 8's) went up hugely for 07...
I'd also heard (but don't know if it's true) that Ford supplied some of the fuel supply and/or programming for the 6.0, and that there is also some dispute about who's mistakes caused the 6.0 problems. Isn't the VT365 in the Internatioal 4200 the basically the same engine?
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I find it funny that Ford didn't like the fact that Navistar raised the price on the new motor to meet the building costs associated with the new emission standards and they(Ford) refused to pay them(Navistar) once they(Ford) filed the lawsuit but they(Ford) raised the price of the diesel motor $1500 to the consumer! I'll stick with my Dodge[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
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I took a 2007 GMC home today (old body style, and old emissions system). I must have had a bad case of the vapors to be considering a new Ford, LOL. Saved by the bell.
But the LMM's have all the emission BS.
PS Don't put a box on this engine unless you want your warrantee to go bye bye. It will hard log and your done.
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DrTurbo,
I don't plan on chipping the motor, even though I had mentioned it was possible. Here is a picture of my last truck, and the toy hauler it had to tow. It was absolutely 100% reliable, and the best tow vehicle I've ever owned. I'm not racing when I'm towing, and all I do is set the cruise at 65 and leave it there. Even with it being completely stock the last truck would still pull the grades around here at 65. I got another one just like it, except its two years newer, and there is no interest on the loan. And its a silver birch color instead of the charcoal color of the last one, so it will be easier to keep it clean.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
I don't plan on chipping the motor, even though I had mentioned it was possible. Here is a picture of my last truck, and the toy hauler it had to tow. It was absolutely 100% reliable, and the best tow vehicle I've ever owned. I'm not racing when I'm towing, and all I do is set the cruise at 65 and leave it there. Even with it being completely stock the last truck would still pull the grades around here at 65. I got another one just like it, except its two years newer, and there is no interest on the loan. And its a silver birch color instead of the charcoal color of the last one, so it will be easier to keep it clean.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]