Geez already!! Read the post agin will you? I didn't say it was just as easy or good as the AC's or whatever just that it wasn't DANGEROUS on the Polaris like others here have posted.

I give up on this site already cause you obviously can't even post an opinion while trying to help somebody out who is looking to buy an ATV without someone geting offended or responding with some smart alek remark about how I am wrong and you are right and yours is better than mine or whatever.

Quote "I have been riding ATV's for 20 years, so don't give me the inexperienced junk, either" If you've been riding so long than you should act your age and not your IQ. Grow up already!! I guess the next time someone posts a question to the site about what "our" opinions are on the different makes of ATV's we'll just tell him to figure it out on their own. That would be easier that listening to you all bitch and moan!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]

 

maxwelk9, you need to check yourself before quoting me. You just quoted a statement that is backing your position. If you read through these posts everyone is claiming that everyone lacks experience and that is where their opinion is coming from. I expected someone to do the same to me. I was simply covering my rear before one of these statements came rolling in. You seem to be upset that I, as well as many others, question the validity of a statement that a quad without engine braking on the front wheels would, by the laws of physics, not manuever as well as on with it. I am in no way trying to "bash" any quad in here. Even some fellow Polaris riders who will truly give an unbiased opinion claim it would work better to have front wheel engine braking. My quad doesn't have reverse override or a front locking differential. I know these would all be nice features, but felt that for the money difference they weren't worth it. To sit here and say my quad is 100% of someones that does have these features would be childish and ignorant(uneducated). It would be the equivalent of the old "My Daddy can whip your Daddy" thing. And what's up with the IQ thing????Do you even know me??? You should take a deep breath and relax the next time someone doesn't agree with you. Total agreement on any issue is probably never gonna happen.


maxwelk9, if you in some way feel my earlier post was directed toward you, your quad, your intelligence, so on and so forth, I apologize.

 

The Polaris all the way if you dont need the extra power go with the 400 it has a bullet proof motor and no EBS and you can safe a few $$$$$.

 

EigerRider04,

Dude, I know I quoted part of one of your previous comments in my last post, but my frustration was not directed entirely at you. I too apologize for getting personal as the IQ statement was definitely uncalled for on my part. I realize now that I got some of your comments mixed up with comments made by 1wook. I must have got things a bit mixed up. I have been reading alot of posts lately and it "seemed" to me that you you were directing that particular quote towards me since I was the one commenting on my "lack of experience" on an ATV. I have subscribed to many other forums like this (only mostly for 4WD trucks) for some time and I usually have a pretty good sense for when someone is directing a particular comment specifically for a particular person (in this case me), but I guess I was wrong. Anyway, I'm still having trouble seeing how your comment was "backing" my position but that's OK.

As far as me getting upset because you don't agree with me that couldn't be further from the truth. The whole point I was trying to make was that you CAN have your own opinion and I too CAN have my own opinion and neither of us should get upset over it. In fact I also said that some quads may in fact have better EBS systems, because as I also said earlier I have never ridden anything else to compare it too. What I did say (or meant to say if it wasn't clear) is that the Polaris system is not dangerous, even for an inexperienced rider like myself and that if someone was trying to make a decision on which one to buy "my opinion" is that the EBS shouldn't prevent him from getting one as I have not found it to be a problem.

Again, I apologize for the "dish" and I'll just go back to reading (not posting) and keep my .02 cents to myself.

Signed.....Humbly "Checked" [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]

 

Thanks for replying, maxwelk9. I sometimes find it very difficult to express my thoughts when writing in a manner that will be clear and understandable. As a beginner, your opinion about the initial safety of a particular quad should be given lots of credibility. It seems as though most riders in this post are saying the Polaris is unsafe for beginners, an area you should know something about. I was, in my earlier post, trying to defend my right to speak, just as you have been, by being defensive and preparing for a comment on my experience. I have ridden a 500 HO and 500 Scrambler, and they are both awesome, fun machines. I am sure that, if given the opportunity, I would trade the little Eiger even for your 700 any day, front engine braking or not!!!!!!

 

1wook, a couple other questions:

1: What makes the A/C cvt better than Polaris'? I've never looked at the A/C's setup, so I'm just curious.
2: You weren't comparing the engine braking on your '98 Explorer with other new quads, were you ? Polaris' EBS is much better on the '03 and up quads than it was in previous years.

The polaris belt is alway engaged, idle and neutral, the ac and yamahas arn't. If you take your clutch cover off and start your machine in neutral the belt will be hopping and skipping around, this is causing some wear. Also if you really get on it from idle the clutches can slam up against the belt and it might end up being clamped between the clutch shives on the top edge of one side of the belt and the bottom side on the other because the belt can twist slightly, this can cause you to burn your belt in spots.

My 98 doesn't have ebs, I sold my 00 500 sportsman that had ebs. I also ride with a guy that has an 02 500 sportsman.

And no you don't have to press and hold a button to get the diff lock engaged on a yamaha, you slide a cover open and push the button.

 

1wook, I have to disagree with your opinions on problems with the Polaris belt drive. Unless there is something very wrong with the belt, primary or secondary clutches or alignment is way out, there is no way the belt will twist no matter how hard you get on the throttle. I've never seen or heard of this ever happening on a properly working CVT system. Even on my sled with approx. 150 hp, I've never seen that happen. If the belt is jumping around at idle, there's two possible problems I can think. One, the idle speed is too high and the primary clutch is trying to engage, or two, the belt deflection is not set correctly. On my sled or my quad, my belt doesn't jump around at idle. If it did, I'd be fixing the problem in a hurry because you are correct in saying it would cause premature belt wear.

On the EBS thing, I was told that there was a 30% improvement in engine braking between the '02 and '03 Sportsmans when I bought my '03. I will say that it locks the wheels in a hurry if you descend slippery slopes in low range. I have found it works far better to use high range while going downhill and use the brakes lightly if any more braking power is required. Generally though, in high range, the EBS will slow my descent sufficiently without rear wheel lockup.

 

Ok Will It make you guys feel better if I say the 700 ebs isen'y dangerous,I will refrase it the 700s ebs Is inferior to Hond,Yamaha,Suzuki,kaw,and Arctic cat. I remember owning Honda 4trx 300s 2 wheel dr.I remember having to get off my foreman to help my boys down steep hills because the 2wheel drives would take off on on them kinda the same way my 2wheel drive but they call it a 4 wheel drive polaris dose.If polaris thinks there 2 wheel drive ebs is so good then why are they going to make there atvs in the next year with all wheel ebs. Like Ive said before this is my only complaint about my 700 and I think It would be more competative with all wheel ebs.

 

My guess is they're tired of hearing people that have no experience with their product whining about 2WD EBS. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Right, I'm sure that's it.