Has any one seen the new Dirt Wheels? a Polaris DVD comes with it, loaded with "proof" that Polaris is far above any ATV made. I want to state at the beginning, this is NOT a Polaris bash thread, I could care less what any one drives, as long as they are happy with it, more power to you. What this is about is the self serving, half truths and one sided garbage I saw viewing this DVD. In every catagory, from 800 cc on down, Polaris was the "undisputed" winner in power,handling,4wd systems, and rider comfort. The one thing I found almost humurous was the constant harping they did about how the riders foot "suffered" on the other brands "uncomfortable" raised foot pegs, and all other independent suspensions came no where near working as well as theirs. In the competitions, a steeple chase, rolling block (rollers on 3 wheels to test 4wd) and sled pull, the Polaris was the victor by a large margin in all catgories, what I found curious was the time trials on the steeple chase, if you kept track of all times, every Polaris,down to the 450 Sportsman, was faster than the 800 Outlander !!! All other quads were slammed for "inferior 2 star" (I guess that means 2 ply) tires, poor traction, unforgiving suspension, and lack of power.
I'm sorry for the rant, but with that video still fresh in my mind, I don't know whether to laugh or burn it, is Polaris so hard up they had to pay Dirt Wheels to push their DVD?
Once again, nothing personal to those who ride, I am not brand fanatic, I have Yamaha and Honda quads, I drive GMC trucks, Ford cars, because those are what work for me and give me what I want,regardless of brand name. It's just when one brand stands on a soap box and brays about how worthless all other brands are, I get a little flustered.
My apologies to anyone I may have offended, and now I am done !!!

 

it is so funny that whoever sponsers the test is always the best nothing bad about there atv just what's wrong with every one eles's

 

You are correct. If you go to the Can-Am site, they show the bomb800 blowing away the pol800 and the kawie750. Then at the polaris site, they show the pol800 blowing away the bomb800 and the kawie750. It is call munipulative advertising. Everyone does it. They hope to get comsumers who don't know all the facts to believe their brand is the best, so they buy one. I personally like polaris even though I own a kawie bf750. However, some of the test are lame. They avoide test that have their quads not in 1st place. That way, the uninformed consumer believes they are buying the best. That is not to say polaris or Can-Am is not the best. But the bottom line all comsumers must remember it the following:

There is no manufacture that makes the "best" quad for every situation.

The comsumer must consider what they want from a quad and then investigate the facts from spec sheets and forums like this one before they purchase.

Always be cautious when someone says their product or quad they own is the best by putting down other quads in certain categories.

Some quads perform better in certain situations than others. And that same quad might be out performed by other quads in other situations. But, if there is really a quad out there that is the "best" in all situations, every one would have bought it by now. Instead, we buy based on what we need (want) and what information we know.

Ultimately the bottom line is this:

"Figures can lie........and liars can figure!"

This says that you can manulipate the data to make your product better than others.

 

You are correct. If you go to the Can-Am site, they show the bomb800 blowing away the pol800 and the kawie750. Then at the polaris site, they show the pol800 blowing away the bomb800 and the kawie750. It is call munipulative advertising.>>>>>>>>>

They didn't really show the Sportsman beating the Outlander 800 in a drag?? Regardless of whatever else is on that video, IF they show the SP beating an Outlander in a drag then I'd have a very, very hard time believing anything else.

 

No, they were very careful not to do a direct head to head competition, the time trials were one at a time, over a course that started over rocks, then a water hole, a medium log, then a quick dirt run with a 90 degree turn then up a hill. They blamed the "poor handling" and "excessive wheelspin" to the slow time of the Outlander 800, saying it was due to the "inferior" 4wd system, which is also the same reasons they used in the sled pull, by the way, you should have seen how they ripped on the Brute Force 750, almost claiming it was unsafe on rough trails, and that the diff lock lever on the handlebars was "too complex and unneeded steps" for getting over the rolling block obstacle. I assumed with that system, you lost traction, you squeeze a lever, you lock up the front, you get traction, how complex is that ???? What they didn't tell you is that the Polaris system deals with the slip sensor for the back wheels,which then has to electrically lock the front hubs, if everything is working properly, and you service the fluid in the hubs and keep it in working order ( sorry, not a slam on Polaris,just making a point) Now which one sounds more complex?? yes, the Polaris works automatically at the push of a button, but depends on sensors, electrical parts and special hubs, relying on a lot of different parts to work together at the same time. They also railed on Can Am, saying it takes too long to "pump up" the front Visco-Lok to be much help. The last test was the "post run", posts layed at angles to work the front and rear suspension, while the Polarises had "no problem" with it, all others "punished" the riders and was "dangerous" at any speed .
I must say, I am glad to see others that see this for what it is, and I'm also glad the Polaris owners haven't opened fire on me, for as I said, I'm not against Polaris, or any other brand, just against one sided, almost lies that are used to sell any product.

 

Guess I'll have to watch the video. Do they do any head to head competitions? I mean, come on man, the sled pull in the BRP video is pretty damn convincing, can't see how they rigged that one?

BTW, in the new Can-Am infomercial the Outlander 500 beats my Rincon in a drag race LOL.

 

I agree with trvman and 700vtwinman. You have to read/watch manufacturers commercials and advertisements with a grain of salt.

BTW.. The Polaris 4x4 system does not have any sensors or special electronics to make the 4wd system work. It locks mechanically. It is simply over running clutches in the front differential with an electro-magnet to help it along.

 

Thank you for clearing that up, BryceGTX, I'm no expert on all quad drive systems, I guess I wasn't 100 % sure on the exact way the Polaris AWD worked, I was just trying to compare what they DVD said was so "complex and unnecessary " about the other drive systems.
Now that I think of it, there was one big test they left out, steep down hill control, you'd think with the new ADC ( active decent control) , they would have been really pushing that, as well. But, as stated above, any manufacturer can make their product look "perfect" as long as they are doing the testing. What I would like to see is an outside group get a sample from all the manufacturers out there and do and apples to apples test, and have them show the results from that, until then, we will all have to make our own decisions based on our experiences and preferences.

 

As much as I like polaris I thought the DVD was a joke and was not at all a real comparison to the other quads.

 

Another thing that I thought about is in the race up the hill. It looks like the same driver, however we don't know if he was told to "lay off the gas a little" on the other quads to make their times slower. The only true way to be objective is to get a group of independent riders and do a series of competitions and comparisons with each bike. Then do it again 4 more times with 4 more different groups. That way, if there is a bias group toward one quad, those results can be thrown out. Basically calculating the upper and lower limits of the statistical data. Also, including several different groups increases the population sample size. The bottom line is each manufacture will always make others look bad in trying to show how good their quad is. If kawie or honda or suzuki or yamaha did it, they would all do the same thing. Remember, they don't want to make a "PROGRESSIVE INSURANCE" commerical. You know, saying that they might be the best and might not be, but will show you anyway because they are just good people. All they want to do is make you convinenced that buying their quad will be the best purchase you ever made and that all other quads are inferior. Just take it for what it is.....a sales gimic pich.