how much can i get for my quad?
Feb 21, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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how much can i get for my quad?
well....if i can get what im asking for it, i'm selling it....if not, i have to work to get another quad....
theres a few things (hard to explain) for reasons why i cant/wont return it back to stock.....
hey, somebody bidded 10 whopping dollars!!! only $2440 dollars to go for them to pass my reserve LOL
thanks for all the help everyone....i just have to hope somebody buys it for the amount i want
theres a few things (hard to explain) for reasons why i cant/wont return it back to stock.....
hey, somebody bidded 10 whopping dollars!!! only $2440 dollars to go for them to pass my reserve LOL
thanks for all the help everyone....i just have to hope somebody buys it for the amount i want
Feb 21, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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I think you have to look at "value" as no more than what someone will be or was willing to pay for something.
Its not always what we like to hear, but its more accurate than any so called pricing books.
You guys have done a really good job of pointing out all the little things specific to this model that will effect price, but I wanted to add some thoughts that are more towards any models and how to honestly figure what you should expect from your attempts to sell etc.
From my experience one of the most important things affecting sale price is the sellers time frame for selling. If your in a rush, and want to move on for whatever reason then listing a lower price will attract more potential buyers, and that means more chances to sell. If you have no real time frame or will be using it while its for sale (what some consider not seriously for sale in the first place) then you can list it higher or at your wish price, but expect less attention than if you priced it better etc.
Another thing many sellers forget to use in figuring price is what the new models are selling for now. Many times mfg's have sizable price increases and decreases. this could be due to high or low sales volume or just their own costs etc, but if you paid top retail plus all the prep bs and warranties etc and now the mfg has held the price or reduced it on new models your most likely not going to be happy with what buyers would be willing to pay for your machine etc.
There is a typical large difference between the retail price and the actual wholesale price to the dealer, and if you paid it all plus the extras there is no way you can expect to recoup any or most of it (depends on other things too) because a seasoned buyer would be buying the same new unit without all the extra costs and a fair discount off retail.
Condition is key for many reasons. First it is what the buyer sees, and what will make them fall in love with it, or think its a worn out clunker. Many buyers have purchased absolute terrible running machines (cars especially lol) just because they looked great. I know most all used car guys believe in the idea you will get a better price for a shinny pretty turd, than a crappy looking diamond. So make it look as good as is practical as it will not only help you get a better price, but will also put more potential buyers into play for your sale.
Modded machines are another issue all together. I know some people who just refuse to buy anything that isnt near 100% stock, and others who overvalue mods. So its sort of an all or nothing thing with mods. I dont think it even matters much if they were done right or not for the majority of buyers either as those who dont want them will not care and just move on , and those who do are happy to see them.
In my opinion the real problem with modified machines is that you limit your audience, and since not everyone is willing to purchase them your numbers may be affected as well.
There are the cases where things just work out perfect and a buyer is actually looking for the mods you have, and with the advantages of forums like this one we all know better just what mods are needed or work well with which models. An example is a machine with an aftermarket exhaust, and maybe even an intake too. I know with most every machine I would have an interest in this would be a plus even if I wouldnt be willing to spend anymore on it etc. Still the right mods can help you sell faster if not seriously increase the selling price, and thats a good thing.
The last scenerio is selling a fully modded machine, or one that appears or was raced etc. The list of mods can go on for ever , and easilly add up to thousands of dollars. Though these machines are typically very different than the stockers many prefer they are also sought after and desireable to those seeking top performance (these can be race prepped performance machines like the yfz or 450r etc, or big bore 4x4 util with all the lifts and other goodies etc.) and they will pay a premium for them. The prices normally (not allways) will be lower than the prices paid for everything included, and exactly how much of a return on actual costs seems to depend on what choices were made, how well the mods work together, and especially how "Cool" the package is. you cant ever forget the cool factor as having the bestest, or baddest or whatever impresses your friends etc is something people are willing to shell out a ton of cash for.
The last important part of selling is a little different because your machine has little to do with it, and thats location. Its a realality that some areas will support a higher price, this can be due to higher incomes or worth, or even just how important ownership is in that area, and it seems that some areas become overwhelmed with larger amounts of certain models that are for sale and that drives down prices too.
I have even seen higher prices for used machines in some areas due to a larger amount of used buyers. Even though the area may not have the highest income levels the higher demand, and also lower availability of used models can actually drive prices higher. It is something that happens around here with older used cars which being in so larger a demand than they are just 100 miles away that they sell for unbelievable premiums (well not as unbelievable as their asking prices lol) I guess it could be from many reasons including the sellers need to get a certain price etc, but it seems that the much larger amount of new sales outside the area, and lowe amounts within has an affect that is greater
In the end you have to figure what your needs are, and how your machine fits into all of this and then adjust your asking price accordingly.
Hope that helped out...
Its not always what we like to hear, but its more accurate than any so called pricing books.
You guys have done a really good job of pointing out all the little things specific to this model that will effect price, but I wanted to add some thoughts that are more towards any models and how to honestly figure what you should expect from your attempts to sell etc.
From my experience one of the most important things affecting sale price is the sellers time frame for selling. If your in a rush, and want to move on for whatever reason then listing a lower price will attract more potential buyers, and that means more chances to sell. If you have no real time frame or will be using it while its for sale (what some consider not seriously for sale in the first place) then you can list it higher or at your wish price, but expect less attention than if you priced it better etc.
Another thing many sellers forget to use in figuring price is what the new models are selling for now. Many times mfg's have sizable price increases and decreases. this could be due to high or low sales volume or just their own costs etc, but if you paid top retail plus all the prep bs and warranties etc and now the mfg has held the price or reduced it on new models your most likely not going to be happy with what buyers would be willing to pay for your machine etc.
There is a typical large difference between the retail price and the actual wholesale price to the dealer, and if you paid it all plus the extras there is no way you can expect to recoup any or most of it (depends on other things too) because a seasoned buyer would be buying the same new unit without all the extra costs and a fair discount off retail.
Condition is key for many reasons. First it is what the buyer sees, and what will make them fall in love with it, or think its a worn out clunker. Many buyers have purchased absolute terrible running machines (cars especially lol) just because they looked great. I know most all used car guys believe in the idea you will get a better price for a shinny pretty turd, than a crappy looking diamond. So make it look as good as is practical as it will not only help you get a better price, but will also put more potential buyers into play for your sale.
Modded machines are another issue all together. I know some people who just refuse to buy anything that isnt near 100% stock, and others who overvalue mods. So its sort of an all or nothing thing with mods. I dont think it even matters much if they were done right or not for the majority of buyers either as those who dont want them will not care and just move on , and those who do are happy to see them.
In my opinion the real problem with modified machines is that you limit your audience, and since not everyone is willing to purchase them your numbers may be affected as well.
There are the cases where things just work out perfect and a buyer is actually looking for the mods you have, and with the advantages of forums like this one we all know better just what mods are needed or work well with which models. An example is a machine with an aftermarket exhaust, and maybe even an intake too. I know with most every machine I would have an interest in this would be a plus even if I wouldnt be willing to spend anymore on it etc. Still the right mods can help you sell faster if not seriously increase the selling price, and thats a good thing.
The last scenerio is selling a fully modded machine, or one that appears or was raced etc. The list of mods can go on for ever , and easilly add up to thousands of dollars. Though these machines are typically very different than the stockers many prefer they are also sought after and desireable to those seeking top performance (these can be race prepped performance machines like the yfz or 450r etc, or big bore 4x4 util with all the lifts and other goodies etc.) and they will pay a premium for them. The prices normally (not allways) will be lower than the prices paid for everything included, and exactly how much of a return on actual costs seems to depend on what choices were made, how well the mods work together, and especially how "Cool" the package is. you cant ever forget the cool factor as having the bestest, or baddest or whatever impresses your friends etc is something people are willing to shell out a ton of cash for.
The last important part of selling is a little different because your machine has little to do with it, and thats location. Its a realality that some areas will support a higher price, this can be due to higher incomes or worth, or even just how important ownership is in that area, and it seems that some areas become overwhelmed with larger amounts of certain models that are for sale and that drives down prices too.
I have even seen higher prices for used machines in some areas due to a larger amount of used buyers. Even though the area may not have the highest income levels the higher demand, and also lower availability of used models can actually drive prices higher. It is something that happens around here with older used cars which being in so larger a demand than they are just 100 miles away that they sell for unbelievable premiums (well not as unbelievable as their asking prices lol) I guess it could be from many reasons including the sellers need to get a certain price etc, but it seems that the much larger amount of new sales outside the area, and lowe amounts within has an affect that is greater
In the end you have to figure what your needs are, and how your machine fits into all of this and then adjust your asking price accordingly.
Hope that helped out...
Feb 21, 2007 | 03:47 AM
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Sorry recon, but after seeing your pictures I have to revise my figures down a bit. I'd put it more down at 1200 to 1400.
I know in my area that would be classified as someone's play toy or 'kid machine'. Either one is a kiss of death when it comes to trying to unload a machine and get a decent price for it. People see it as a machine that has been had the guts ran out of it and abused. Not necessarily fair I'm afraid but that's just the way it is.
Hope it works out for ya.
I know in my area that would be classified as someone's play toy or 'kid machine'. Either one is a kiss of death when it comes to trying to unload a machine and get a decent price for it. People see it as a machine that has been had the guts ran out of it and abused. Not necessarily fair I'm afraid but that's just the way it is.
Hope it works out for ya.
Feb 22, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by: kickass210
i agree with this guy. to me a bent rack means ur beating it up very bad. why do u want to get rid of it so fast after all of those mods?
Originally posted by: CaptainQuint
Based on NADA I'm putting it at 1800-2000. I'll tell you why.
Buyer (a smart one) is going to look and see that it has been ridden hard obviously. He'll see that it has been submerged repeatedly and has god knows what sucked into the engine through the intake or through the engine seals or through the seals of the other components. He'll also be suspect of all the wiring connections on the ATV despite of any waterproofing that may have been done.
The cosmetics and crash damage will certainly add to that. The fact that you say that it has been well taken care of means nothing. All used ATVs and used cars have. Have you ever head someone selling one say 'I never changed the oil in this thing and I ran the **** out of it!" ?
Now don't take this wrong, I'm sure you took excellent care of it, after all it was obviously your pride and joy. I read how excited and enthused you were about it here on the forums. I know you took good care of it. The prospective buyer however thinks you're lying. The fact though is that iall of that means nothing when you sell one. No one believes you. People are even dubious if you have records from the dealer documenting oil changes etc.
When you're selling the mods you listed mean very little.
The snorkels and breathers don't add anything to the value. If anything they detract from it and tip off buyers to the fact that it was submerged regularly.
The heated grips and ammo box really don't add much in the way of dollar value unfortunately.
The lift doesn't doesn't do a whole lot I don't think for dollar value neither does the hitch though like the heated grips and ammo box they are things that might 'sell' a prospective buyer but it won't bring in more money.
It's gotta have tires and what they are doesn't particularly matter as long as they're good.
The winch can add a hundred bucks or so to the price.
In my experience a buyer is going to look at that ATV and see these things.
1 It's a 2x4.
2 It's been ridden hard. A lot.
3 It's been swamped. A lot.
4 It's been wrecked.
5 Someone has been messing with it.
1 makes it hard to sell in my neck of the woods period. 2 3 4 and5 make people really really nervous. 5 especially.
So I'd say 1800 to 2000 and you would be doing well.
Just my experience. Your mileage may vary.
Based on NADA I'm putting it at 1800-2000. I'll tell you why.
Buyer (a smart one) is going to look and see that it has been ridden hard obviously. He'll see that it has been submerged repeatedly and has god knows what sucked into the engine through the intake or through the engine seals or through the seals of the other components. He'll also be suspect of all the wiring connections on the ATV despite of any waterproofing that may have been done.
The cosmetics and crash damage will certainly add to that. The fact that you say that it has been well taken care of means nothing. All used ATVs and used cars have. Have you ever head someone selling one say 'I never changed the oil in this thing and I ran the **** out of it!" ?
Now don't take this wrong, I'm sure you took excellent care of it, after all it was obviously your pride and joy. I read how excited and enthused you were about it here on the forums. I know you took good care of it. The prospective buyer however thinks you're lying. The fact though is that iall of that means nothing when you sell one. No one believes you. People are even dubious if you have records from the dealer documenting oil changes etc.
When you're selling the mods you listed mean very little.
The snorkels and breathers don't add anything to the value. If anything they detract from it and tip off buyers to the fact that it was submerged regularly.
The heated grips and ammo box really don't add much in the way of dollar value unfortunately.
The lift doesn't doesn't do a whole lot I don't think for dollar value neither does the hitch though like the heated grips and ammo box they are things that might 'sell' a prospective buyer but it won't bring in more money.
It's gotta have tires and what they are doesn't particularly matter as long as they're good.
The winch can add a hundred bucks or so to the price.
In my experience a buyer is going to look at that ATV and see these things.
1 It's a 2x4.
2 It's been ridden hard. A lot.
3 It's been swamped. A lot.
4 It's been wrecked.
5 Someone has been messing with it.
1 makes it hard to sell in my neck of the woods period. 2 3 4 and5 make people really really nervous. 5 especially.
So I'd say 1800 to 2000 and you would be doing well.
Just my experience. Your mileage may vary.
i agree with this guy. to me a bent rack means ur beating it up very bad. why do u want to get rid of it so fast after all of those mods?
Feb 23, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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You need to take a saw and cut off that muffler exhaust, then cut down the pvc pipe for the air intake to about 4-6". It just looks goofy like it is now. Do you really plan on going through 8 feet of water or something???
Feb 25, 2007 | 04:12 AM
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thanks for biidding rinman...
i dont understand it, but randomly, ebay says my account has been suspended! alls i've been doing for the past week was going on to my ebay summary, hitting refresh to keep checking my stats on my atv......before i have my atv on ebay, i didnt even use ebay! WTF?!@!? they took my listing off ebay and gave me my money back bt i'm pissed.......
and the air box snorkel looks a lot higher than it really is...idk why in the pics it looks so big....but the exhaust is pretty high...
i dont understand it, but randomly, ebay says my account has been suspended! alls i've been doing for the past week was going on to my ebay summary, hitting refresh to keep checking my stats on my atv......before i have my atv on ebay, i didnt even use ebay! WTF?!@!? they took my listing off ebay and gave me my money back bt i'm pissed.......
and the air box snorkel looks a lot higher than it really is...idk why in the pics it looks so big....but the exhaust is pretty high...
