Old PSAR thread - please see the new one
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by: RaptorRandy27
Bing I consider you a friend and I respect your opinion so I'll just have to agree to disagree. This to me was never an attempt to try and undermine anyones constitutional rights or supress gun lovers of which I am one, quite the opposite in fact. To me it was all about tolerance and respect, a point that seems to have escaped young and old alike. If you feel I have not acted my age in trying to get my point across somewhere along the line then for that I am sorry. I thought I was clear , concise and articulate in trying to make my point and had hoped that more like minded would have weighed in as I know they are out there. I too have chose to participate less and less and now I may indeed take your advice and be done altogether.
Food for thought, if were all supposed to be friends here and one of our group is uncomfortable enough with the subject matter to speak up about it then should we not respect his or her wishes? That's how we do it when we are together, why should it be any different here?
Originally posted by: Bing
the thread says "Puget Sound/Seattle NW Area Riders Meet HERE!!!",,,,,that is a pretty general topic
there have been many great ideas about expanding the forums to include all kinds of topics,,,,,but i think dave just wants to keep it simple (there have been hundreds of suggestions,,,,,should they all be honored?)
also,,,,as much as i agree with what i wrote,,,,,they are not necessarily my opinions,,,,,questions like these get answered everyday,,,,and we go by precident as the forum is an evolving monster that has no clear black and white bounderies
if you want my opinion,,,here it is,,,,I have never witnessed so many grown adults act like such a bunch of spoiled children in my life. Some of the behavior on this thread has left me bewildered in the last year or so,,,and because of this, i do a bit less participating
it actually is pretty simple,,,and it will remain simple,,,,,its an open forum for psar
there are thousands of atv threads to keep you and others occupied during hunting season when gun lovers are excited
feel free to start your own thread that is more specific on content if you wish,,,then you would have an argument that the mods would back up
typically, when a bunch of complaints come in regarding a thread,,,and no-one can come to terms with it,,,the thread ends up in the trash can,,,,so i suggest you guys work it out amongst yourselves,,,,you are all damn near twice my age
Only thing I can do at this point is refer any complaints about this topic to an older crotchety moderator who might be able to understand what is happening a little better[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: RaptorRandy27
Bing, while agree with what you say to a certain extent and respect your opinion and your position as a moderator it brings the question up, why do they have a hunting outdoor activities and farming forum on the connection? Just as they have the where to ride forum. I think that while it is great that we have a place to talk to like minded ATV enthusiasts about ATV's and other things, it should be kept to mostly the subject of ATV's and the other stuff should be posted in the appropriate sections of the forum as we all have ATV's in common but there are some who do not share some of the other intrests and they should not have to tune out of what has become their meeting place to discuss ATV's. Im having a hard time trying to figure out why the owner of this forum went to all the trouble to make different sections of this forum if anything goes in this one as far as subject matter? Can we talk about same gender marraige here is that an appropriate subject? I know that would offend me just as the gun talk has offended another member. Does it have to be more than one person offended before it is not considered acceptable subject matter? If so I find this troubling. I guess I don't think it's pretty simple shizz.
Originally posted by: Bing
a forum is just that,,,,a forum,,,,,a public meeting place for open discussion, a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas
guns, tanks, boating, atvs, carpentry, cats dogs, hippies,,,,,,,,whatever
only time we would ever intervene (in this type of scenario),,,,is if one user is making a personal attack on another user
if you dont like the current discussion,,,,,i suggest that people tune out
pretty simple shizz
Originally posted by: Bigdaddy660R
Ten: some people ARE uncomfortable when it comes to talking guns and their uses. WE as reasonable and RESPONSIBLE card carrying members should respect their opinions and keep the GUN TALK amongst ourselves, that way everyone's rights are considered. JMHO.........[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: tencubed
Hmm. Could be you have a point Randy. I dropped Bing a PM earlier about this and am awaiting a reply. Some subjects are apparently to topical for everyone to maintain an objective and open viewpoint on. I would really hate to see this forum become too tightly restricted as there is so much good humor, open comments and variety here. Much of what makes PSAR here on ATV Connection is the really open exchange and willingness to share knowledge and experience. To have to restrict this just to rides and quads would, in my opinion at least, be a major mistake.
Hmm. Could be you have a point Randy. I dropped Bing a PM earlier about this and am awaiting a reply. Some subjects are apparently to topical for everyone to maintain an objective and open viewpoint on. I would really hate to see this forum become too tightly restricted as there is so much good humor, open comments and variety here. Much of what makes PSAR here on ATV Connection is the really open exchange and willingness to share knowledge and experience. To have to restrict this just to rides and quads would, in my opinion at least, be a major mistake.
a forum is just that,,,,a forum,,,,,a public meeting place for open discussion, a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas
guns, tanks, boating, atvs, carpentry, cats dogs, hippies,,,,,,,,whatever
only time we would ever intervene (in this type of scenario),,,,is if one user is making a personal attack on another user
if you dont like the current discussion,,,,,i suggest that people tune out
pretty simple shizz
Bing, while agree with what you say to a certain extent and respect your opinion and your position as a moderator it brings the question up, why do they have a hunting outdoor activities and farming forum on the connection? Just as they have the where to ride forum. I think that while it is great that we have a place to talk to like minded ATV enthusiasts about ATV's and other things, it should be kept to mostly the subject of ATV's and the other stuff should be posted in the appropriate sections of the forum as we all have ATV's in common but there are some who do not share some of the other intrests and they should not have to tune out of what has become their meeting place to discuss ATV's. Im having a hard time trying to figure out why the owner of this forum went to all the trouble to make different sections of this forum if anything goes in this one as far as subject matter? Can we talk about same gender marraige here is that an appropriate subject? I know that would offend me just as the gun talk has offended another member. Does it have to be more than one person offended before it is not considered acceptable subject matter? If so I find this troubling. I guess I don't think it's pretty simple shizz.
there have been many great ideas about expanding the forums to include all kinds of topics,,,,,but i think dave just wants to keep it simple (there have been hundreds of suggestions,,,,,should they all be honored?)
also,,,,as much as i agree with what i wrote,,,,,they are not necessarily my opinions,,,,,questions like these get answered everyday,,,,and we go by precident as the forum is an evolving monster that has no clear black and white bounderies
if you want my opinion,,,here it is,,,,I have never witnessed so many grown adults act like such a bunch of spoiled children in my life. Some of the behavior on this thread has left me bewildered in the last year or so,,,and because of this, i do a bit less participating
it actually is pretty simple,,,and it will remain simple,,,,,its an open forum for psar
there are thousands of atv threads to keep you and others occupied during hunting season when gun lovers are excited
feel free to start your own thread that is more specific on content if you wish,,,then you would have an argument that the mods would back up
typically, when a bunch of complaints come in regarding a thread,,,and no-one can come to terms with it,,,the thread ends up in the trash can,,,,so i suggest you guys work it out amongst yourselves,,,,you are all damn near twice my age
Only thing I can do at this point is refer any complaints about this topic to an older crotchety moderator who might be able to understand what is happening a little better[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Bing I consider you a friend and I respect your opinion so I'll just have to agree to disagree. This to me was never an attempt to try and undermine anyones constitutional rights or supress gun lovers of which I am one, quite the opposite in fact. To me it was all about tolerance and respect, a point that seems to have escaped young and old alike. If you feel I have not acted my age in trying to get my point across somewhere along the line then for that I am sorry. I thought I was clear , concise and articulate in trying to make my point and had hoped that more like minded would have weighed in as I know they are out there. I too have chose to participate less and less and now I may indeed take your advice and be done altogether.
Food for thought, if were all supposed to be friends here and one of our group is uncomfortable enough with the subject matter to speak up about it then should we not respect his or her wishes? That's how we do it when we are together, why should it be any different here?
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:36 PM
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[quote]
Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy
Will you be my friend?
Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy
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OK this is beginning to be ridiculous. Everybody forget everything you know about the forums and think about your best 3 friends the very top of the friends and family you care about. How many times have you fought with those people???? Not everybody is going to feel the same way about certain subjects and if you cant except someone?s opinion for what it is then chances are you don't have 3 fiends to think of [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Just my opinion.
OK this is beginning to be ridiculous. Everybody forget everything you know about the forums and think about your best 3 friends the very top of the friends and family you care about. How many times have you fought with those people???? Not everybody is going to feel the same way about certain subjects and if you cant except someone?s opinion for what it is then chances are you don't have 3 fiends to think of [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Just my opinion.
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Hi Val,
Glad HappaBuddy made it through surgey OK.
I remember when I had my hernia surgey, my brother thought it was funny to tell me jokes!
Glad HappaBuddy made it through surgey OK.
I remember when I had my hernia surgey, my brother thought it was funny to tell me jokes!
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
Fo Shizzle my nizzel [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
Originally posted by: RancherATCrazy
Will you be my friend?
[i]
OK this is beginning to be ridiculous. Everybody forget everything you know about the forums and think about your best 3 friends the very top of the friends and family you care about. How many times have you fought with those people???? Not everybody is going to feel the same way about certain subjects and if you cant except someone?s opinion for what it is then chances are you don't have 3 fiends to think of [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Just my opinion.
OK this is beginning to be ridiculous. Everybody forget everything you know about the forums and think about your best 3 friends the very top of the friends and family you care about. How many times have you fought with those people???? Not everybody is going to feel the same way about certain subjects and if you cant except someone?s opinion for what it is then chances are you don't have 3 fiends to think of [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Just my opinion.
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Bing
i must have missed that
i never advised anyone to do this
now I may indeed take your advice and be done altogether
i never advised anyone to do this
Anyway.. Off to treatment. yall git your ride on and hunt on and have a good weekend.
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by: Red400EXRod
Hi Val,
Glad HappaBuddy made it through surgey OK.
I remember when I had my hernia surgey, my brother thought it was funny to tell me jokes!
Hi Val,
Glad HappaBuddy made it through surgey OK.
I remember when I had my hernia surgey, my brother thought it was funny to tell me jokes!
Oct 27, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by: OneFlyCowboy
Missinterpretations run rampede everywhere [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] wild and crazy stuff man.. wild and crazy stuff. I got an idea.. if you don't like the topic being discussed bring up something you find relevant for discussion [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img] This is a novel concept i know...
Anyway.. Off to treatment. yall git your ride on and hunt on and have a good weekend.
Originally posted by: Bing
i must have missed that
i never advised anyone to do this
now I may indeed take your advice and be done altogether
i never advised anyone to do this
Anyway.. Off to treatment. yall git your ride on and hunt on and have a good weekend.