You misunderstand me. I'm not rationalizing anything, I wouldn't ever ride there if there was that kind of question on private property. Just pointing out that the write up says some workers don't like it. My point was I empathize with the worker's concern over the safety issue of having anyone riding around an active site even IF the company doesn't care. And some employees might take independent action to do what they can to keep themselves safe. I would. The company has every right to not want people riding there and I have no problem with that. It's the ones who insist on going against the property owner's decision that makes trouble for the rest of us.

 

I'm ignorant. What's different than is already in effect, other than 2008 noise restrictions.

 

from the mines i have been around.. they do not want them in there. its part of the insurance liability crap and mine safety and bla bla bla. the company/owner does not want people on the site if its active. now reclaimed mines could potentially have passive use agreements. but ATVs have a serious burden to be sure what they are doing is right to prevent our extinction.

 

That bill says i cannot ride an atv on our farm because the adjactant residences can hear it.

 

Ravensdale has been "closed" in my book for a long time. They have dug holes and put dirt piles all over the place just so people couldn't ride there, since I can remember. I will not ride there!

 

But you are using your atv for agricultural or forest mannagement use and are therefore exempt. Correct?

 

Should i say my sport quad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Just carry a sapling in your backpack whenever you go riding.

 

As a homeowner with a renter neighbor who has a sh*tbox El Camino that would NEVER pass the noise restrictions in this bill, I can see, kind of, where that part is coming from. On the other hand what i've seen from watching gun laws over the past years, whatever the current law is, there are always representatives that want to put their name on a new more restrictive one, slowly eroding the citizen's rights.

 

It is making a noise violation a traffic infraction, which means if you get a ticket on your quad, your driving record will reflect it. Insurance rates go up, etc. You don't have to be a licensed driver to operate an ORV, so the ones who don't have a license, what happens to them? It also says regardless of ownership, so if you have a kid that rides and isn't licensed, are you gonna get a ticket? Another thing is that it allows for a neighbor to bring suit against you for violating the noise ordinance which is to not have it running for more than 5 min in a 24hours period and get attorney's fees out of you for suing you, but doesn't allow for reverse compensation. So many things wrong with this bill. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img]
Wish I could make the rally, but work is getting in the way. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]