Does anybody know if the staging area miller canyon is open to ride.Myself and a friend want to ride this area on monday the 23rd. We have never ridden this area and want to check it out reconranger are you out there I know you have a good knowledge of this area? we want to ride out of miller canyon up towards the big bear area if its open can you give us some suggestions on what trail system to ride. If this area is closed which Im thinking it is are there any areas off the 15 that are open if so info would be thankfull. P.S. we will not be riding our quads we will be riding dirtbikes that are street legal thanks for all your replys.

 

I don't think you can go to Big Bear from Miller cyn. The Deep creek area is still closed. You can go up to crab flats near Green Valley Lake and ride to Big Bear. There are many trails that will take you there. It is also kind of cool up here the last couple of days, check the weather.

 

Anybody?????

 

You can ride from Miller Canyon, up to Hwy 173. From Pinnacles to Crab Flats is closed, so you can't get over to the Big Bear area from there, riding dirt. There aren't any back roads that will get you around that closure, that I know of. You could ride over to Green Valley Lake on the highway (seeing you are street legal), then drop down to Crab Flats, and ride over to Big Bear on dirt roads from there.

Baldy Mesa off the 15, is open, but I never found it much fun riding there.

 

the thread title says baldy mesa off the I15. are you talking by hwy395 or somewhere else?

 

Baldy Mesa is on the east side of the I-15, just past the Silverwood Lake exit.

I know the place you mean off the 395, about a mile past the I-15, right??? I talked to the guy who owns that land, and he is a rider and doesn't mind if people ride there, but unfortunately the city of Hesperia has an ordinance against riding, and you could get busted. Therefore, I boycot Hesperia, and refuse to buy gas there or stop to eat!

 

they are opening a new track up in hesperia off the I15. one will be only for quads.

 

Speaking of Hesperia....


This Friday, August 20, 2004

Illegal off-roaders may face fines up to $1,000 in Hesperia
City Council approves urgency ordinance that prohibits backyard riding
By GRETCHEN LOSI/Staff Writer

HESPERIA — Off-roaders had better get used to the idea of using legal trails
or they could face fines and even confiscation of their vehicles.

The City Council approved an urgency ordinance Wednesday that prohibits
backyard riding on parcels smaller than 40 acres.

The ordinance, which went into effect immediately, was enacted due to a
sharp increase of off-highway vehicle complaints over the past couple of
years, said Tom Harp, Hesperia's deputy director of developmental services.

Harp said that motorcycle enthusiasts approached city officials two years
ago to stop a crackdown on the sport. They wanted the chance to police their
own industry.

"The problem ended up getting worse. Since the industry isn't policing
itself ... we had to take some action," Harp said.

Not only motorcycles, but off-road vehicles in general, have become a big
problem for residents, Harp said.

The ordinance not only will restrict where off-road vehicles can ride, but
also imposes fines up to $1,000 for those who choose to ride illegally. The
ordinance adds extra law enforcement, and will establish a hot-line to
report illegal OHV riding.

The new rules didn't go over well with some off- roaders.

"I think it's bull. I moved us out here so we could play where we live. I
might as well have stayed in Orange County," said Juan Jimenez, a Hesperia
resident who has lived in the city for three years.

With the new provisions in place, OHV use is prohibited within 200 yards of
occupied buildings. Riders can only roam on parcels over 40 acres, which
means that most neighborhoods should be quieter.

"We've been waiting a long time for this. We haven't had a quiet afternoon
in our backyard since I can remember," James Cochran, a seven-year resident
of Hesperia said.

The city also adopted a new section to address so-called nuisance vehicles,
stating they can be confiscated if their riders are caught:

• soliciting acts of prostitution while on an off-road vehicle and/or
acquiring, attempting to acquire, or transporting a controlled substance on
an off-road vehicle;

• illegally dumping trash;

• operating the OHV in the public right-of-way;

• operating the vehicle on land belonging to another person without written
permission of the land owner; and

• operating a vehicle off the highway within 200 yards of an occupied
building.

Certain vehicles, such as those used for farming and construction, are
exempt.

The ordinance guidelines came from researching several cities with similar
issues, including Barstow, which was the one chosen to use as a model by
Hesperia.

"We don't have a real big problem with (drugs and prostitution) ... Rather
than say, 'Let's leave those out until we need them,' we typed one more
sentence and just added them in," Harp said.

The city will conduct some 600 hours of law-enforcement activity for the
remainder of the fiscal year that will pay for up to eight additional
officers.

"It will be an intense enforcement program," Harp said.

Fines for those caught riding illegally will be $100 for the first offense,
anywhere from $250 to $500 for the second, and $1,000 for the third.

Riders unwilling to risk a ticket have the option of using two existing
off-road parks, Sunrise BMX in Adelanto and the Victorville Motocross
Complex.

There are also public off-highway areas available on Bureau of Land
Management land at the El Mirage Dry Lake, as well as Off-Highway Vehicle
areas in Stoddard and Johnson valleys.

Residents who spot OHV riders disobeying the new ordinance can report the
activity via a hot line the city plans to have operating by October.

The city is also developing an educational program to inform riders of the
city's laws and requirements.

Educational material may appear in motorcycle magazines, school posters,
local billboards and in the bimonthly water bill. The city will use those
outlets as well as offer an educational program to teach residents the
impacts of off-highway use and where it is legal.
was in the local paper. Just wanted to share


I use to love riding Deep Creek wash in the winter time. I'll miss that place
[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/img] but 3n59A the trail leading to Bowen's Ranch is still open, i think?

 

wow, good info to have! we have rode through a few illegal places. thanks.

 

"The city also adopted a new section to address so-called nuisance vehicles,
stating they can be confiscated if their riders are caught:

• soliciting acts of prostitution while on an off-road vehicle", I agree with reconranger, BOYCOT HESPERIA! They take all the fun out of it! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]