RAM EZ-Strap Handlebar Rail Mount for Garmin nuvi 40

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Thinking about doing something like this, installing it on our trailer (that we haul our atvs on) that folds flat under the quad during transport, then opening it up, after unloading atv, keeping the tent off damp ground, snow, ice, cold. 10' x 10' dim., once sides are pulled out. Plenty of room for small heater, between bunks.
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my garmin nüvi 40, w/ $26 atv handlebar mount

Jumbofrank.. your showing your age when you can remember the "round a mount" name!

4 tracker just pickuo an enclosed trailer and convert it to a camper, then you hace solid walls for insulation and bad weather. Haul the quads and have a safe sleeping area. Fuel on your van wont be much different. I get about 14-15 mpg pulling a trailer with my Blazer, but I get 10 mpg on my notorhome pulling my trailer with my SxS so for a few more gallons of gas, I can have it all!

I got one right after I got my Garmin GPS12. The last software update available for it was 15 years ago, and the one before that was 20 years ago, so yeah, it's been awhile. :lol: Whatever they want to call them they're great mounts. And my Garmin still works! RAM mounts and Garmin go together like peanut butter and jelly.

Updates & Downloads

GPS 12™

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GPS 12, Ver. 3.53, as of Apr 03, 1998, Download Compatible with versions: 3.50-3.52

GPS 12, Ver. 4.60, as of Aug 04, 2003, Download Compatible with versions: 4.00-4.57

I wished we needed a GPS. I have one, but forget to take it most times. It would be great to get lost once in awhile! We've been beating these trails to death since 86! We want to do the 75 mi loop next trip, but its just a short straight jog, hopping from town to town w/ well marked trails, looping around back to camp. We still sometimes take a trail map though, but its just to give those riding with us, an idea of where we're going. It also helps to pay attention to the suns location w/ the approximate time of day, along with road crossings to stay on course, in case you ever accidentally veer off the main trail. Simple compass may come in handy as well. Don't leave home without it! lol
If anyone would like to try a challenging, rough, maze like trail, pull up the Ambrose Lake to Ogemaw Hills Trail map. Starting out from St Helen, head s. e. down to knoch rd orv trail, crossing the tracks on the 313 trail, heading east passing Dow rd, then around in a n. e. loop crossing over Fairview rd. for about 3 miles, then hop back across Fairview again swinging n. w. up to Clear lk./Ambrose lk area for gas & snacks, if needed. Leaving there heading e. crossing Faiview rd. then turning n. up to wagon wheel, there heading w. on heath rd. 5 miles to beaver trail heading s. all the way back to St Helen. Close to 50 miles depending how many times you leave the trail, which is easy to do! Terrific, breathtaking terrain elevations, but real rough in places, just pass the tracks!
Along the way grab a burger n cold one, at Clear lk. bar n grill, or hit up the corner store for a great breakfast, w/ entrance behind the store, if pulling into town early. Good luck!
If anyone knows of another equally challenging trail, hopefully with lots of difficult trail terrain, let us its location! I'll be glad to explore it.

''Still looking'' Ain't giving up!! for buddy/friend to ride with, preferably over 50, to have more in common, but I keep up with the grand kids, too! lol I can buddy up with the slowest guy in a pack, or pass anything on the trails, and everything in between, as long as I'm up north camping, cooking on open fire, trail riding, hill climbing, eating out at local diners, FRESH AIR UP NORTH!! etc. etc. doesn't matter as long as i'm out of dodge here in the city, and eating great northern sand, is fine with me!! I'm an early riser, but ok w/ your schedule to sleep in, is OK too! If this ain't you, tell a friend that's just sitting around starring at the walls, giving up on ever riding again, and have him get in touch, asap!! still a few great weeks ahead, but time is definitely not on our side!! We can sit on our duffs all winter, but not now!!
Gladly share equally with the entire trip, as always! thanks Steve

Just Discovered A New Trail
Hope to try a trail north out of St. Helen, covering close to 100 miles round trip, depending on how many play areas we visit, along the way. lol We've done many parts of this trip, but never covering the entire trip, all in one run! Starting out north from St. Helen, the trail follows just east of St Helen rd. north to Luerne, taking on fuel, goodies, tour of the town, then head east thru Mio over to Bull Gap area loop, then south passing by, but not stopping at pink store, making it into Rose City for final fuel stop, grub, whatever's, then west across Heath rd. until it suddenly starts to turn nw, then turning south to Rose City rd. where you can either follow the rd into town, on green lk. rd. or head back to camp, at the corner of Rose City rd and Grass lake rd. going s.w. on Beaver lk. rd. back to camp! whew!! That took a lot out of me lol Really looking forward on tacking this rout, real soon!
And if you too https://atvconnection.com/forums/ima...ons/icon10.gif, would care to make this trip soon, get in touch, and lets get back https://atvconnection.com/forums/images/icons/icon2.gif up there ASAP, alreadyhttps://atvconnection.com/forums/ima...ons/icon14.gif!! I HATE WINTER!! https://atvconnection.com/forums/ima...ons/icon13.gif

Planning on going back up next weekend if all goes well. Weather is looking good so far! low 80's with plenty of sun in the forecast! Doesn't get better than that!! Cant wait to get back for some serious trail riding/camping/good friends/good food/sun/fresh air....I am sooooo ready!!
And I'll be ready to head back again soon, if anyone needs a friend/buddy for more of this type of our Michigan narcotics! that mysteriously keeps drawing us back lol Hurry!!! winter is not that far off!
Thanks Steve

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Just got back from great 5 days up north w/ my buddy/friend/neighbor and new found friends from Indiana, all riding 4x4's and me on my little Honda quad (as they laughed along w/ me) in comparison, even though I kept up pretty good, but under great duress/suffering with the rough whooped out trails and long rides!! at St Helen MI. area! After returning and after seeing how many of my friends are riding larger 4x4 quads and sxs, (convened me to invest in a bigger quad that could handle longer trips on a tank full, on rougher trails, proven to hold up under very rigorous terrain, also giving a much more comfortable ride, especially over them rough sharp whoops which are even worse, even on sandy trails) so I bought a new 4x4 King Quad 750 on sale for $5,999, Black. Plus adding a few extras, new plow, wench, power steering for $1,200. Ready for winter! lol Hoping to get in a few more trips up north while the season is still above freezing, during day rides to test her out and also get in a few hundred miles for break in procedure at the same time!. I'm still keeping my little Honda trx450r quad, still the fastest quad on the planet, bar none! Dare you to take me on!! Bring it on!! Come on with your bad self!! lol Look out northern Michigan! here I come!! :scooter:
Ride safe! steve

Congratulations on the new quad. I've never regretted my decision to get an IRS 4x4 for my first ATV. The Trailblazer I got later was fun but not powerful enough, and not suited for all day rides. I was tired of it after a year.

Every time I checked the weather it looked like about a 50:50 chance of rain every day of the last couple of weekends. I'm not interested in finding out if my new jacket really is waterproof, so I stayed home. And it's getting too cold at night for me to be comfortable in my tent. I may make another trip up north but that's probably it until next year. If it quits raining long enough I have a lot of yard work to do anyway.

Just returned last weekend with a friend, from the Toledo Ohio area, where we trail rode at the St Helen, Rose City, West Branch triangle area, for 3 days, covering 170 miles, with the fall colors waiting for our arrival, to burst into the most brilliant color patterns, and falling all over us and painting a blanket of these same colors over every hill we came to. The days got better, weather wise, from very cool in the morning but by mid day, perfect riding conditions, w/ no rain and lots of sun! Rode back to some great challenging hill climbs just s of ski run, nw of West Branch, which is also some of the most beautiful scenic riding in the state! Also considered the Rose City Oil Field Hills. You can visibly see the long hilly ridge clearly from a distance, behind West Branch, driving n on 75, just after their rest area, and just before the first exit into town. Then after leaving West Branch heading n, your climbing up the side of the oil field hills, where you'll be getting a better sense of the incline/elevation it has! Also got to try out the new Suzuki KQ 750 (0 miles on odometer when we got there) I put on over 100 miles before any extreme hill climbing was done, sorta/kinda lol Hard not to while traveling across areas around there, where you need low gear to get up/down most trails! My buddy too, with his sxs also did well being 56'' wide, managed to squeeze through some pretty seemingly impossible, made for dirt bike/atv trails, and climbed as well, on every hill we came to! Those hill were by far the best part of the trip and warmest, w/ most sun, most color for our last day there! Perfect weekend!! We also grab a great tasting burger just off the trail, at Clear lk bar/lounge lol. You can ride your atv into town. Terrific food, always crowded, right in the heart of hundreds of miles of hilly trails, all around there! This might have been the last trip of the season, but you never know, where Michigan can suddenly drop a good weather couple of days on us up there, any time in Nov. Ain't over till the deep snow, and deep freeze sets in! Come on give us one last go of it lol One more last ride....

Good weather and beautiful fall colors. What a great combination.

Hoping for
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just one more trip, weather permitting! Its 54 up north Mi. and sunny right now, so there might be a few days left coming up before its too cold for any serious riding out on an open atv, but I'll never say never lol Even if there's no chance this season for another trip I'm still looking forward to using the new plow bought with the King Quad for my property and helping neighbors with snow removal. I ordered and installed handlebar heated mitts that will help while out on colder days and waiting on shipment of more aggressive/wider tires to hopefully help with the plowing heavy snow and for next season's sand/mud/hilly trails.

WeatherBug says it supposed to get down to 30 degrees Friday night and 29 degrees Saturday night at Mio. That's too darn cold for me. One of my friends has always used handlebar mitts in the winter, but no heated ones that I know of. He never wears gloves when he rides at any time of year. I guess his hands are leathery enough he doesn't need them.

No longer camping out but what a great year it was! New KQ Suzuki finished break in just before colder weather, with heated grips installed and new tires!! Come on winter SNOW! It just started snowing here in SE MI. and coming down up north daily! Trails Inn motel in St Helen right down town and right on trail head available for winter trips, even if just to get away for short rides and enjoying establishments there in town on quads! Any body ready? Might be too late this year, but I'm starting now to meet someone with the same enthusiasm to trail ride Michigan next spring/summer. get with me and lets plan trips there, thanks Steve

Mine is at the dealership getting HD front springs put on it. I'll be ready for snow when I get it back. The guy looking them up said EPI had 120# and 125# springs for the same price. I told him to order the 125#. I just looked online and EPI says the 120# springs are 25% heavier than stock, and I don't even see 125# listed. They should stop my ATV from squatting when I raise the plow, and will be an improvement on the trails. As soon I ordered my winch I should have gotten the HD springs too, but I didn't know I would go this long without it being stolen and didn't want to put the extra money into it. 10 years later the springs have to be even weaker.

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I'm concerned with the heavy weight of this new plow, that I haven't used before, and haven't even attached yet, since buying quad and plow just a few mo's ago, along with the aggressive tire pattern and heavy vehicle weight, that my graveled driveway will be churned up, especially if the ground is still warm, not frozen and moist causing me to plow gravel mixed with snow, that i'll be then pushing out over onto the grassy yard (the only place I have to pile the snow) that I probably won't notice until next spring, then scratching my head wondering what it will take to get the pea sized gravel back on the driveway again lol They do sell rubber blades to add to the bottom of the plow blade to help slide/wipe over gravel vs digging, hopefully pushing/packing the gravel back down after tire ruts made and only pushing gravel free white stuff! Has anyone ever tried the rubber wiper blade over gravel, and the results?

I can't help you there. I have concrete. Behind that I have some 12"x12" patio blocks that my trailer is parked on behind my truck. I'll have to move the trailer in front of the shed because I plow all the way up the driveway to the fence at the back of the yard. I noticed one of the patio blocks teeter-tottering this year and never fixed it. Now I'm wondering if the plow will catch it and break it or push it over on the grass. I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Yes, there are companies that make a rubber bottom for your blade. I looked into them last year but the thinnest rubber was 1 in...made for truck plows, however they will make to suit and install holes to your measurements. I feel 1 in is to thick and stiff so I plan on making my own this year. I don't plow unless I have a few inches of snow, just blow off the sidewalks. We have a farm store near us that has horse stall mats about 1/2 " thick or a little thicker that I am going to try. To have one made starts around 150 bucks and a stall mat is less than 40 and I can make a couple of sweepers from one mat. My research says they work great on gravel drives, so I am going to find out this year. Search the net, there is a lot of info on this subject and even how to make them!

I have a 6" rubber flap bolted to the top of my plow to keep snow from flying up in my face. One of those bolted to the bottom of a plow might work, but maybe it's not thick enough.

ETA: It came off my old plow. I turned it around because it was too narrow on the back where I cut it to the 50" width of the old plow. The front was as wide as the side shields at the point it came out to. I just turned it around, drilled new holes in it, bolted it on, and cut a triangle off each end that was sticking out. It looks kind of odd being 52" wide for a couple of inches, tapering down for a couple more, and then being 50" wide for the last couple of inches in the front, but it works.

Don't you guys laugh! lol but I put skies on my old craftsman snow blower in order to slide over the gravel driveway, over 30 yrs ago, and just replaced them 2 weeks ago because the weight of the machine finally wore through the thin aluminum, made from roofing drip edge, that I had used for skies. Worked great and you can push it forward in deep snow with ease/one finger! How it works is the plow blades only cuts through the ice/snow within a quarter of an inch above the gravel, since the skies are at that height, plus there's no churning/digging into the gravel since the wheels set on top of the skies, leaving a clean/soothe surface with very little snow above gravel! So you know what I'm thinking.... you got that right? I could put skies on the plow blade (i think I've seen this somewhere before, now that I'm thinking about it) that could work much the same way as my blower skies work, where the plow blade won't be able to dig any deeper than the ski height over the gravel and snow. This just might work, as long as my new deep aggressive tires won't plow up the gravel, but still the plow goes through the snow first before the tire tracks, even if the driveway hasn't frozen hard yet? I don't mind if the gravel is a little churned up as long as It's done after plowing clean gravel free snow first, leaving behind any mess the tires leave behind! Eliminating gravel mixed in with snow, where I then would push it out over the lawn, and hopefully gravel free!!
I'll get on this right away and i'll send pictures of my old trusty snowblower on skies, and hopefully the plow w/ skies, and then lets pray for SNOW to try em out lol I'm really getting excited for my first atv plowing experience!!

Skid plate ideas
 

Here's a few plow skids I found this morning on internet looking for plow skid blade and on ebay for about $50 a set. I'm still going to try my hand at building my own just for the experience but if they don't hold up for some reason, I might consider buying a set. I think by putting the skids just behind the plow blade you wont run the risk of ramming them into curbs, banging them up, since the plow would be protecting the skids from damage more, in my opinion, just saying/thinking before my time rushing into this build. I don't want to drill into this new plow, in case I decide a plow may not work for my use, and end up selling as in a newer condition. The full length skid looks to me to do a better job of keeping the ground more level without skids digging ruts
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Having done most of the things you,describe already, I can tell you what worked for me. I am assuming your blade does not have feet on it already?? Most do, some feet are quite small, and need to be made larger. My blade is very heavy and has adjustable puck style feet like a commercial plow blade. These work well but can dig into soft gravel drive that is wet and not frozen. The full length skid plate will ride up over a hard pack snow, can only be used for light fluffy snow unless you have extra reinforce which many commercial blades have. The blade type foot like a snowblower has will dig in due to the extra weight of the blade, they work great on my snowblower but not on a snow blade. The rubber bottom on a blade is about the best idea I have found. Not perfect but better than other fixes. The real trick is getting the correct thickness of rubber for the weight of your blade. My blade weighs almost 200 lbs so I need at least a 1/2" thick rubber, commercial blades for pick up trucks can use a 1" rubber and large city trucks use 1 1/2" up to a 2" thick rubber. If your blade is lighter in weight you might get away with 1/4" or 3/8" rubber. The rubber needs to flex enough to fold slightly under the bottom of the blade to hold down the gravel but not lift the blade up over the snow. Hope this helps Steve... let us know.. .

The item you posted as most practical requires added down force to keep the blade from riding up over the snow. Light fluffy snow is ok but hard packed snow needs extra down force. Darn little buttons on my phone didnt come out right on my previous post

Some how my reply got stuck with your posting lol First time this has ever happened before! Its like I hijacked your mail lol
Anyways thanks for the help, and Its going to be a lot of trial and error trying to adjust my condition with the type of surface I have, and different ground temperatures, which is going to be different with each individual's road condition/material makeup/temp. might even need to have 2 different blades going from warm to cold or frozen which would be a little much, unless it were more for a plow contractor/business where they have so many different driveway surfaces to contend with.
HEY, ALL YOU GUYS HAVE A VERY HAPPY T-GIVING and lets thanks SNOW!!
we have about an inch since this morning on grassy areas

Quote, Kymco 450i "The rubber needs to flex enough to fold slightly under the bottom of the blade to hold down the gravel but not lift the blade up over the snow." That's what I was thinking when I mentioned the snow flap on top of my plow blade. It's probably too flexible but if it was narrower than 6" it might work. The only way to know for sure would be to try it, or find someone else who has.

Rubber wiper plow blade ideas
 

i know it also has a lot to do with the hardness or durometer of the rubber too. I remember this from ordering rubber parts for a pump co. I worked for, where we used large round rubber wipers that were used for pushing/pressing down into barrels/drums to force out materials as loose/lite as paint, to as hard as very thick adhesives for automotive/construction use. Also the depth of rubber from the bottom of the blade to ground as you just mentioned, and the thickness of material from 1/4'' to 1/2'' or more? , also the surface, where if its on a hard concrete type would need more firm/harder, and less of a flexible wiper blade, and less depth. Where like in my condition, where I just added new pea gravel to low areas in driveway, its going to be sooooo soft now, where i'll need the extreme opposite of a concrete rubber wiper's. As Kymco 450i was saying it could get mighty costly for trial and error's, with so many variables involved, that i'm not sure where to start for my use!? There's wipers for around $50 all over the net, but how many might need to be purchased trying to find the right fit for my use?
I just thought of something!! If the wiper is too soft I could add a metal backer behind the rubber to help stiffen it like soft flexible coil stock, that should flex back like a spring, and adding as many as needed until i find the perfect wipe/firmness, also depending on the temperature outside where i could change out adding or removing aluminum strips. You know what, I just talked my self into trying this out and feel pretty confident it just might work! I'll order the cheap $50 blade and stiffen er up if too soft! Sounds pretty sexy as well lol I'll get back after i get the rubber wiper, and installed, and hopefully by then we'll have enough snow to hopefully give it a good try/review https://atvconnection.com/forums/ima...ons/icon14.gif https://atvconnection.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

If you have a farm store in your area, go check out horse stall mats. They are quite cheap and you could make numerous wipers from one mat and still have less cash invested. Others have also had success with them, I am not the one with the original idea. Putting on and taking off backing plates would be a real pain. Yep your gonna get a few stones in the grass but so does my snow blower. I just live with it or pay the neighbor kid to rake them back in the spring. My drive is wide enough that I dont push all the way into the grass anyway

Looking thru my junk pile I found some 6mm thick rubber mat from my mud flaps. Going to make a blade scraper from that material. Going to use double thickness and see how that works. No sense buying more when I have material already!

You could even have the edges of the 2 pieces at different heights if you want, so the very edge will be one layer thick and more flexible, but just above that the other piece backs it up so it's stiffer. Now that I think about more, doubled up mud flaps should flex plenty, but the idea might work with stiffer rubber.

Got another problem.situation! I just recently bought my Warn plow and has never been used, and if i cant figure out a way to make a way to move the snow with a soft wiper type blade, i wont have any need for keeping it, plus the lack of storage having to store it all year, and will need to sell it, as in as a new condition as possible. Is there a way to test out the rubber wiper without drilling the plow? The other option was to make a skid on ea side of the plow to keep the blade just above the driveway surface and the skies would slide on snow covered surface, without digging up soft gravel and could be adjusted up or down easily on the skids depending on ground firmness/frozen/temp. I figured after seeing in this one pic where the skids were fastened with tie downs wrapped around plow, alleviating the need to drill through the plow!

You must have a very basic plow blade. Most already have skid feet attached to control how deep the blade goes down. There should also be a wear bar along the bottom to prevent wear on bottom of blade. If your blade doesn't have these features you may want to return it and get a better blade. No drilling should be needed as the holes for the wear plate and the wear plate itself are used for mounting the rubber scraper.

I went out today to look at the plow, and I haven't had a chance to really look at what they sold me, since I put it ''out of sight out of mind'' thinking i wouldn't need it till the snow starts falling. Plus we've been so busy for my family flying in for the Holiday, getting things ready for the big event tomorrow! Well.... I started to check out the plow, when my 4x4 caught my eye, and gave in to give it some love, started it up, and got up on it, feeling the yearning/dreaming of getting back out, and wished I had some place close by to ride it! Its going to be a long winter! Getting back to the plow here lol, Yes I believe its pretty basic with no skid feet, but from the pictures I've been looking at, the feet/pod I believe might sink down into the soft gravel digging/plowing/churning up gravel then might mix in with plowed snow. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the feet more for hard ground/concrete surfaces? I watched a video this morning where a plow contractor, demonstrated in detail how to plow loose gravel lots, and what works best for him to prevent plowing up the gravel is to plow in reverse/backwards with plow just off the ground and adjusts the height constantly when listening for scraping sounds and the way my plow is built it does look perfectly shaped for that. I just wish it will snow already!! lol. Maybe we need to head back up north to find some.... SNOW!! lol Just ck weather up there w/ temps in mid 30's w/some sun and 2'' on ground! perfect trail stuff lol lets go!! Winter doesn't last forever lol Just seems like it lol

The skid feet are not perfect but they do really help, without them it is impossible to scrape snow without digging in unless the drive is frozen. Tried that one year when my skids broke off (cheap blade) I ended up making bigger feet and then I was OK. The current blade has big skid discs like a commercial has and they are adjustable for height. I have them at the max of about 1 1/4" below bottom of blade and yes they do dig in a little early on when stones are soft but not the full 1 1/4". This is the reason for wanting to add the rubber wiper at the bottom of the blade. You should have a wear bar at the bottom of the blade with numerous holes for mounting. Remove this wear bar and sandwich the rubber in between wear bar and blade, mark holes and drill thru rubber and bolt in place. Approx one inch needs to stick out (rubber) below blade to work. When rubber wears just drop down what ever is needed and add more holes so the rubber can be used over again many times until to short to move down anymore. I am told each rubber change last almost all season unless you do an awfull lot of plowing then mabey 2 adjustments per season. Whatever it takes is much better than shoveling!! Do keep the snowblower for drifts and deep snow. Blades don't work that well with real deep snow, mine is great until over 12 inches. The problem is not pushing the snow it is how fast it builds in height along the edges. One year I had snow 4 ft tall along the drives edge and that also makes your drive narrower as you cant push that big of a pile further into the yard. So when I get big snows, I use the blower to remove the deep stuff and blow it well out into the yard so it doesn't build up then finnish with the blade for better removal of the lighter snow without the edge buildup. For stone drives I am told the rubber is the way to go for sure!

I was going to suggest you just don't lower the plow all the way down. If the gravel is level the plow won't dig in if it's set a little above the surface. If your driveway is rutted or bumpy it would be a different story. Kymco450i, if you have your skids adjusted that far down and have a rubber wiper on the blade, I don't see why you couldn't just adjust the skids as your wiper wears out. Depending on how flexible the rubber is it doesn't seem like it would need to be taken off and re-drilled very often.

Things are much easier for me. When I get a new plow or flip my wear bar over to use the other edge I adjust the skids so they don't quite touch the ground. Because the bar is at an angle only the back edge of it makes contact at first and it doesn't take long for the bar to grind down even with the skids. I have to adjust it a little as it wears, but when the wear bar is ground flat against the driveway and making full contact front to back it may be a few years before I have to adjust the skids again.

Sounds like you have a paved drive. Makes things so much easier than a stone drive. You need to have the rubber long enough to wipe over the stones to keep from scooping them up, as the rubber wears if you adjust the skids the rubber might not be long enough...only trial and error will tell for sure. It is easy enough to remount the rubber, clamp it in place after trimming off a new straight edge then drill thru with a sheetmetal drill bit using existing holes. Sheetmetal drills will leave a nice clean hole, put in bolts and your done. Sounds like alot of work but it really isnt. Once you have all your tools and understand what your doing it won't take very long. Then again I am working in a heated garage, not doing this outside in winter weather...lol

No I don't have a paved driveway, and is why I've been researching ways to plow over freshly applied small pea size gravel, just applied last month, over the entire surface, above a foot thick, of hard packed gravel, I've laid down for almost 40 yrs now. This is why I might not be able to keep this plow, since it only take a broom to move the gravel around, much less an extremely heavy steel plow, that looks like its designed for county road work lol! Its so heavy duty, I can't even move it around by myself!

4 tracker I was referring to big frank on the paved drive reference, I know you have gravel just like I do. My blade is extremely heavy, I cant pick it up, have to drive over it, then attach the winch and lift it up. Once the blade is swinging free the grab the blade, line it up and snap into place. Look up "Pile Driver quick attach system" from Quad Boss and you will see how simple it really is. Not cheap, but quick and easy to attach and release. Also a very heavy duty blade, probably weighs in around 200 lbs. Couldn't attach without the quick system!