The biggest advantage to a taller tire with less paddles, especially with a two stroke, is that it allows you to get your RPM's up higher for the same amount of traction, putting you closer to your peak horsepower. This is why you see so many banshees running 22" 7 or 8 Paddle tires. I prefer to get more traction and take advantage of the wider powerband of my fourstroke.

And as always, any debate is in good humor and standing. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

~HoundDog

 

Good point hound I guess its just preference! Me i'm looking for paddles also for DRWs in Oct and I don't use paddles very often so I'm going to get the 22s 8 or 9 paddles. Hard to believe Sparks ran a 7 paddle they looked like atleast a 9 or 10 paddle 22s. I heard from all the racers that if you have a built motor to run atleast 8 or more paddles.

 

I have seen every scenario from not getting enough traction to too much traction to not enough rpms.... It just comes down to getting the right paddle for your setup. If you have any friends with different setups you could try I would try a few different to see. Paddles are one item that can make all the difference in whether you dominate or get dominated just by whether you made a good choice for your bike.

Happy Hunting! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]

~HoundDog

 

HOUNDOG===YOU need to wake up !!!! you want to talk about making sense??? The roll out on a 20 in. tire isnt enough to put the Paddle face at a curve, 20 in. paddles with 7-8 lbs tend to lay flat and across in the sand [not too good for sand drags], and 22 in. tires with 7-8lbs of pressure in them bo-out [BALOON EFFECT] and kind of make a curve, which makes it DIG instead of spinning on top of sand like you think is the ticket, for what "raptor03 likes to do", seeing how i was drag racing with him for 2 days straight a few weeks back, i know what his motor pulls like, common sense will tell me.... i also have tried 20 inch paddles opposed to 22inch and lost 8 bike lengths on the hill, this is all from testing these paddles sizes with different gearing also.. your power + displacement thoery makes me laugh.......i have 2 -10 foot stacks of tires in my garage and have tested all of them over and over... i run 12 paddle 22inch tires on my ds because i have i bit more torque, in thicker sand like PISMO i will run the 10 paddle 22s, why dont you look at any of the FAST sand drag bikes and see if they have 20 inch paddles, they all have big roll outs so the paddle will bite, BUT keep on running them 20 inch tires maybe thats what is making you so smart...LOL

 

Dude, you have your head so far up your A$$, you must be smelling yesterdays lunch. If you would actually pay attention to what I wrote you would see that I did note that larger drag bikes use 22" tires. I also gave reason for this. But if you would actually look at them, they are running between 10 and 12 paddles on 22" tires. As for your "Balloon Effect" theory, Gather this: ONLY the <u>paddle</u> of a paddle tire gives traction. However much paddle hits the sand is how much traction you are going to get. As the sand is removed by the "scooping" action of the tire, the tire itself drops and gets another bite. The only difference between a flatter or rounder tire is the shape in which the paddle is in when it digs. If you have a 10 accross paddle in a flat design grabbing a full 10"x1" of sand per rev, it will displace the same amount as a rounder paddle getting a full 10"x1" of sand per rev. Giving it the SAME TRACTION. Now the question left is, do you have enough horsepower on whatever bike in question to provide the needed torque to turn a 22" with the same traction as a 20" tire around as fast? If so, you can get more distance per rev with the 22". If not, you are overloading your bike and losing ground.

I welcome your comeback. You are making this easy.

~HoundDog

 

claimed by "HOUNDOG"If you have a 10 accross paddle in a flat design grabbing a full 10"x1" of sand per rev, it will displace the same amount as a rounder paddle getting a full 10"x1" of sand per rev" DUUUUDE, YOU ARE ONLY KIDDING YOURSELF with this crap, im talking real life testing, not a little chicken $hit thoery you have read somewhere, WE are talking about paddle DIG, remember!!! I dont care what you think you know, but if you believe your theory your only kidding yourself, are you dreaming in technicolor about 10x1 revs BS, i do what works in real life, I wish you lived closer, then we could see whos thoery of a paddle moves a quad, so until then watch your own smart remarks because, anyone with the 22s, can drop 1 tooth on counter sprocket and compensate for your torque claim from 20-22..what it all boiles down to is: YOU AINT NOTHIN BUT A HOUND DOG[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] good luck with your 20s maybe they work for you, but until you have tested most types of paddles your just kind of rambling on....go argue with some 12 year old and you may have better luck..

 

how do you get the extremes buffed? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

 

ask for them,there are basically three types of paddles from skat trak,triple buff,double buff,reg.hauler..

the med.haulers are best for all around riding and are light..

the triple buff are very weak and are strictley for draggin.

the reg. hauler is a good all around paddle..

 

I am also going to get a 21-12-8 or 22-12-8 8 paddle extreme double buff. I ran a set of worn 21-12-8 8 paddle and my bike ran very well with them. Are the double buffs tough? Or should I sacrifice some bike lengths and get the regular haulers? Also, how much would a set of double buff 8 paddles be on .125 rims? Thanks

 

yea the double buff or(beed to beed) is stronger and work well for draggin,not saying that they are tufff as hell but tuffer than the triple buff..