well, you really need to get opinions from people who have ridden BOTH on the trail.

I looked at the Z, but chose the raptor due to it's 660cc engine [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

does z400 have reverse?

 

The Z has reverese and a good spot. Unlike the warrior. i always burn my hand on the pipe or something. I'd go with the Z just because it has alot better handling and a easy clutch. I don't need all that power. The Z will work for me. Is it cheaper? How much are 04 Z and 04 raps? i don't keep up with that stuff