what is the stratedgy/ technique goin into at whoop section on the track any tips or anything will help. everytime i try it my front end always goes down and yanks my arms and i hurts really bad.

 

Get way back on the seat standing on the pegs. I try to keep the front up and do two at a time that way.

 

yea.. lean way back and try to skim across them

 

Where i ride and drag race on the oregon dunes we have to deal with some very large sand whoops so i can give some input here.The most important thing is to remember to not ride above your skill level when riding whoops at speed because they can be very dangerous but if you want to ride them faster you must stand but not fully with your weight shifted to the rear and let your legs absorb a lot of the impact and once you get proficient at riding them at a good pace you can slowly increase the rate you are traveling until you can learn to skip across the top of them.It is possible to stay on top of very large whoops but you must maintain a high rate of speed and that only comes with a lot of practice and if you learn to ride whoops you can pass much faster machines with riders that do not know how to ride whoops.Do not underestimate the potential for nasty crashes when riding whoops but also if you master riding whoops it can be a huge advantage for you.If you are serious about riding whoops as fast as possible you should also consider investing in the best suspension that you can afford.

 

Riding whoops while hillshooting at the dunes is one thing, but riding whoops while desert racing can be another thing altogether. I entered a desert race last summer that had a section of rock hard dirt whoops that went on, and on, and on, for 30 miles! Now that was a section of whoops that made you feel like you had been beat to death by the time you had finished a race, and it turned the stock suspension I had on my ATV at that time into an absolute pogo stick. The stock shocks overheated so badly that any damping they had to begin with was gone.

I agree with everything that has been said here, but would really emphasize the shifting your weight to the back part. I tend to ride whoops with my butt about six inches behind the rear of the seat, in a semi-standing position, with my knees bent to absorb the impacts. And I also agree that suspension upgrades will make all the difference in the world. I have used Works shocks, Ohlins shocks, Elka shocks, and Custom Axis shocks, and the best by far for riding whoops is Ohlins.

 

Keep Your wieght as far back as possiable dont sit down either (it will hurt) and keep the throttle pegged

 

Everything that was said before is great advise. You also want to keep the throttle steady when you're going through the whoops. Don't let off the throttle on the down side of the whoop. If you aren't consistant on the throttle, that's when you'll feel like the front end is getting yanked down. Even if you are going slow, keeping the throttle steady will make a big difference. Once you get used to it you'll start getting faster.

 

I agree with the technique info but physical stamina is equally important. I desert race and whoops created by trucks/buggys are brutal. Most of the time simple fatigue is what slows ya down. SAme for MX. Endurance training is often the key. That combined with good technique (makes ya work less) will get ya there. Start exercising more [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

if i get going to fast over whoops with my kota it starts to fish tail why is this

 

Because you are surpassing the capability of your Lakota's suspension to maintain straight line control.

Trade the Lakota on a DS650 and get a set of 16" travel King Racing shocks. That ought to do the trick [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]