I know of one person who did not go with Kenz for reasons that I will not disclose... It goes both ways, the way people ACT and carry themselves make a huge decision on what company they spend their money on... Ultimately most will be happy with who they go with, I don't hear of amny people that KNOCK the builder they go with, and I think just about any professional company, the customer will be happy???

 

Yea, every builder is going to lose some business, you cant keep everybody happy. The thing is, Kenz does so much more work than Craycraft will ever do. So you know 1, I know 3. That could be a much bigger percentage of sales to CR than Kenz.

And I guarentee the reason Kenz may have lost business isnt because he is dissing every builder out there, whether they deservce it or not. That for sure can not be said about 14/CR.

RoostKing...

 

I have never heard kenz dis any builder...on the contrarie I've heard him compliment other builders...I have never seen Craycraft on here (he's smart)so I can't say he slams other builders either and I'm positive he is not the type of guy to slam them anyway...Hey...it's always been about me being faster than you and the slamming among us will always be there...However we look to all of our builders (and their crews) to act in a professional manner.

 

Right, ken may not diss other builders but, some of their customers do... Bob doesn't diss Ken. Builders will rarely diss other builders, however customers will...

Bob will not lose buisiness due to HIM dissing anyone, and neither will ken...

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Roostking- If Kenzs is so great how come i have not heard of any 1st place FSW thropies? It is basicly in his back yard and he builds hillshooters? Where was Kenzs at at FWS1 and FSW's 2?

 

Damm roost you remind me of somebody who you dont like very much..I guess you aint been to Craycraft shop, it's littered with raptors and other bikes ready to go fast, they dont put out quantity but quality, that is the difrence...

Man im going to get my self in trouble , ill shut up now...

 

GOOD STATEMENT!!! Kudos to the great Mr. Stallion

 

From the 4SW III website.

Under 500cc Stock Bore Class
1st James Johns - Kenz Cycle Tech YFZ450
2nd Josh Sherley - Sparks Racing YFZ450

501cc+ Open Class
1st Kyle Simpson - Sparks Racing Raptor 690
2nd Ryan Simpson - Sparks Racing Raptor 727 This should be Todd Inglefield on a Kenz bike. Website is wrong.

So there ya go. and Since Ken is pretty net iliterate, he probably didnt even know there was a 4SW 1 and 2. And have you EVER heard me say Kenz was the best??? NO I have not, and until he beats the guys from A&S in Michigan, i wont. But Ken is my friend and will bend over backwards to help someone out. As I know CR will.

You dont seem to understand that Ken works on more than just a few Raptors at a time, he has probably 30+ bikes waiting on his shops touch. to include rails, street bikes, dirtbikes, quads, and Golf carts. So I would say that with his volume, he does pretty good with the R+D work as well. I should take some pics of his shop and house so you could see the 1st place trophies and plaques he has. Not only from his days building/racing full-one drag bikes, but from bikes he built that have won at various events. I think his last "trophy" is from the Cinders, where he raced a big bore CrayCraft, and won!!! yea I know. LCC, mild build, not setup for drag racing. I know, I know, but they still raced...

You see, I dont believe that 14 mins is simply a customer, or Bob probaby would have told him to shut his trap(as Ken has asked me to do once or twoce LOL) but since 14 is an investor, Bob has to put up with it.

So anyhow, 14, you wont get anybody to bash other builders, except Trinity, but you will continue to bash everybody BUT your shop.. Thats where the problem is...Lack of professionalism, which if I take it right, probably comes from a lack of working as a youth, so you never developed that particular set of social skills.

RoostKing...

RoostKing...

 

Not sure of what the rest of the post meant, but if your infering that I dont like 14, nothing could be further from the truth! What I dont like about Mark is the slander and outright lies regarding other shops, to include a friend of mine...

Now this quote above where you are wrong. There is no difference, CR deals only in quality and might have some trophies to show for it. Kenz deals in Quanity and Quality, and DOES indeed have numerous trophies to show for it...



RoostKing..

 

untill you see bob craycraft and kenz on here going at it who care's it not going to prove anything line them up and let your bike talk all the $hit for you