Okay I have a question no one has ever answered for me.

Do the duals actually mount where the plastic support brackets are, or are they like normal exhaust and bolt directly to the subframe?

 

The latter, they bolt to the plastic support mounts. Which would lead me to believe that they would not be as durable, or at least less likely to stay on the bike. I for one wouldnt want my brackets or plastic bending because the weight of the pipe or the force from a landing bent my plastic supports down.

But then again, people probably arent going to be doing a lot of mx and jumping on a raptor, let alone with these pipes.

 

im debating between a full hmf system and these ltes... anyone have any suggestions.