KillerB --- a taste of your own medicine
Mar 23, 2001 | 09:31 AM
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Usually I don't get pumped up about the guys who feel the need to down the Raptor because of an inferior complex. However, since killerb felt the need to raid the Yamaha forum yesterday with a bunch of trash, I figured I'd try to meet him with some more information.
All of the following are comments taken directly off of the Bombardier forum expressing complaints and problems about the DS650. Most of them can be found by just reading the last few weeks of messages.
Once again, these are all quotes for DS650 riders and can easily be found by reading the Bombardier forum. Spending more time searching would lead to even more such as problem bending wheels and so forth.
So tell me once again killerB, does the Raptor really have all that many more problems?
I didn't post this to cut down the DS. I still believe that it is very well built quad. The point is that all quads, especially a new model, will have it's share of problems. KillerB just needs to get his head out of the sand, or if not that, whatever orifice he has it stuck in!
All of the following are comments taken directly off of the Bombardier forum expressing complaints and problems about the DS650. Most of them can be found by just reading the last few weeks of messages.
MY DS WHENT TO THE SHOP TODAY, BECUSE MY RED LIGHT WOULD COME ON SOMETIMES WHEN I WAS NOT GOING VERY FAST.WELL LUBA YOU WERE RIGHT COME TO FIND OUT MY FAN WHENT OUT ON ME...................
It was a sending unit switch, one of the up dates that came up after I purchaced it................
I also have an oil light problem ................
my DS 650 was 2 months out of warranty and they would ONLY pay for half the cost of parts NOT including labor for my blown motor................
Fellows I am all to familiar with Bombs customer service. I bought my DS in March of last year and rode it every saturday for about 3hrs until November when my engine started making some strange noises and loosing power. I took it to my dealer who told me the engine was toast for no apperant reason and it would cost $3000 to repair. Parts needed crank assembly, bushings, gasket kit, case, cylinder and piston kit "WTF" this is an 8 month old bike I paid nearly $8000 for it and now it needs a new motor! To make a long story short my bike is still at the shop, sitting out in the rain, sun, snow and has who knows how many bird stains on it. So much for my $8000 dollar investment..........................
When I first bought this thing I considered taking it back to the dealer after just the first 200 yards down the trail. My god, this thing was all over the place, and took a monumental effort just to go in a straight line, because of all the darting, diving, and wandering.
my riding partner and i both have ds650,when riding at the dunes my oil tem light has came on quite a few times.My partners oil tem light has never came on, we ride the same way and just as hard.After i let it sit for about 5min and start the bike everything is fine the lights off.........
sagging spring ? any body else having this problem?, the spring on one of my front shocks is sagging inwards and has evan struck the shock body, just talked to the dealer, I've had the bike almost a year but he still says bring it in, thats a little good I guess. How can this not be a material defect?..................
Have you considered aftermarket suspension? After 1 year of ownership I am convinced that the stock suspension is not very good for a 170 lb rider.
I got a DS650, 2000, in July and it has been in the shop a total of 2.5 months off and on. The radiator hose on backside of motor keeps blowing off for no reason (usually when I have it and shop doesn't). This has burnt my leg twice (so keep an eye out for this). The shop can't find problem. They have replaced several hoses, thermostat, and electric fan/heat sensor.......
Both A-arms are bent (new ones have been on order for approx. 4 mths). Have replaced one battery, one stator and rectifier, heat an oil light, and oil sensor. The bike is bad about backfiring through carburator. I was wondering if anyone else has had these problems????? I have only put about 50 hours on the bike. Just had to buy extended warranty because bike was still in shop when warranty went out...........
Our radiator hose came off 2 times also. It burns like crazy on your leg. The nipple of the engin (that the hose clamps onto) is very slippery and there is no way for the rubber to BITE onto it. We grovved the nipple off with sandpaper a few tiems and made the surface rough. Now it holds tight as can be. WE also went over the whole machine and put some bigger clamps on all the hoses, just in case.......................
I wasted my left a-arms they are not that strong, the chain rollers suck, i replaced my chain roller with the aftermarket one from tm designworks it has bearings....................
My chain roller went out to but i took an old roller skate set and put one on mine.............
has any one had problems with there bike back firing? Mine does it all the time.The shop never can find out what is causing the problem............
I thought it should have had more power in the low end, a good pipe fixs that, the only time the weight is an issue is when you have to lift/drag it around. I'm putting on Timmy Boy A arms to fix darty steering/bumpsteer.....................
I hate to say this, but bombardiers are junk.. I had mine for 4 months now (about 40 hours) and it drives like it's 40yrs old. I'm selling mine before the book value goes from 5200 to 0000.......
It was a sending unit switch, one of the up dates that came up after I purchaced it................
I also have an oil light problem ................
my DS 650 was 2 months out of warranty and they would ONLY pay for half the cost of parts NOT including labor for my blown motor................
Fellows I am all to familiar with Bombs customer service. I bought my DS in March of last year and rode it every saturday for about 3hrs until November when my engine started making some strange noises and loosing power. I took it to my dealer who told me the engine was toast for no apperant reason and it would cost $3000 to repair. Parts needed crank assembly, bushings, gasket kit, case, cylinder and piston kit "WTF" this is an 8 month old bike I paid nearly $8000 for it and now it needs a new motor! To make a long story short my bike is still at the shop, sitting out in the rain, sun, snow and has who knows how many bird stains on it. So much for my $8000 dollar investment..........................
When I first bought this thing I considered taking it back to the dealer after just the first 200 yards down the trail. My god, this thing was all over the place, and took a monumental effort just to go in a straight line, because of all the darting, diving, and wandering.
my riding partner and i both have ds650,when riding at the dunes my oil tem light has came on quite a few times.My partners oil tem light has never came on, we ride the same way and just as hard.After i let it sit for about 5min and start the bike everything is fine the lights off.........
sagging spring ? any body else having this problem?, the spring on one of my front shocks is sagging inwards and has evan struck the shock body, just talked to the dealer, I've had the bike almost a year but he still says bring it in, thats a little good I guess. How can this not be a material defect?..................
Have you considered aftermarket suspension? After 1 year of ownership I am convinced that the stock suspension is not very good for a 170 lb rider.
I got a DS650, 2000, in July and it has been in the shop a total of 2.5 months off and on. The radiator hose on backside of motor keeps blowing off for no reason (usually when I have it and shop doesn't). This has burnt my leg twice (so keep an eye out for this). The shop can't find problem. They have replaced several hoses, thermostat, and electric fan/heat sensor.......
Both A-arms are bent (new ones have been on order for approx. 4 mths). Have replaced one battery, one stator and rectifier, heat an oil light, and oil sensor. The bike is bad about backfiring through carburator. I was wondering if anyone else has had these problems????? I have only put about 50 hours on the bike. Just had to buy extended warranty because bike was still in shop when warranty went out...........
Our radiator hose came off 2 times also. It burns like crazy on your leg. The nipple of the engin (that the hose clamps onto) is very slippery and there is no way for the rubber to BITE onto it. We grovved the nipple off with sandpaper a few tiems and made the surface rough. Now it holds tight as can be. WE also went over the whole machine and put some bigger clamps on all the hoses, just in case.......................
I wasted my left a-arms they are not that strong, the chain rollers suck, i replaced my chain roller with the aftermarket one from tm designworks it has bearings....................
My chain roller went out to but i took an old roller skate set and put one on mine.............
has any one had problems with there bike back firing? Mine does it all the time.The shop never can find out what is causing the problem............
I thought it should have had more power in the low end, a good pipe fixs that, the only time the weight is an issue is when you have to lift/drag it around. I'm putting on Timmy Boy A arms to fix darty steering/bumpsteer.....................
I hate to say this, but bombardiers are junk.. I had mine for 4 months now (about 40 hours) and it drives like it's 40yrs old. I'm selling mine before the book value goes from 5200 to 0000.......
So tell me once again killerB, does the Raptor really have all that many more problems?
I didn't post this to cut down the DS. I still believe that it is very well built quad. The point is that all quads, especially a new model, will have it's share of problems. KillerB just needs to get his head out of the sand, or if not that, whatever orifice he has it stuck in!
Mar 23, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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KillerB,
If you fixed your chain roller with a skate wheel, I was wondering if you would sell the remaining 3 wheels off of it to me? I've been thinking about making a wheely bar because it's so hard to keep the front end down in the first 3 gears of my stock engine Raptor, but I don't suppose you'd know anything about that unless you've at least put a pipe on it, fixed the jetting and probably done other motor work as well would ya?
If you fixed your chain roller with a skate wheel, I was wondering if you would sell the remaining 3 wheels off of it to me? I've been thinking about making a wheely bar because it's so hard to keep the front end down in the first 3 gears of my stock engine Raptor, but I don't suppose you'd know anything about that unless you've at least put a pipe on it, fixed the jetting and probably done other motor work as well would ya?
Mar 23, 2001 | 10:16 AM
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Don't forget that in there first year Bombadier held the release date of the 650. It seems that the brakes lines were being rubbed by something and bursting and something with the steering(stem) was breaking. That's real cute --NO BRAKES NO STEERING Downhill, all that weight---OUCH. One of those wrecks could of put bomby out of business.
Mar 23, 2001 | 01:43 PM
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KillerB...the rise you were looking for? Do you mean you wanted someone to make you look ignorant?
