Yamaha Discussions about Yamaha ATVs.

Motorcycle oil vs. automotive oil. It's all BS.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-01-2001 | 07:13 PM
FourStrokeFan's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Range Rover
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Default

Here's an article that includes some scientific data about motorcycle oil and automotive oil. The article's a little old, but still very relevant. After reading this, I now officially refuse to spend $4 a quart on non-synthetic motorcycle-specific oil when I can get Mobil-1 for the same price and with much less hassle by going to my local auto parts store. Some people might insist that you can't make up your mind on the basis of one article, and maybe that's true. Until I find an equally thorough analysis that disputes the results of this article, I'm staying with normal automotive oil.

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm
 
  #2  
Old 11-01-2001 | 07:37 PM
95Warrior's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

I used automotive oil in my Warrior, and now the clutch slips. Should have used motorcycle oil! (I learn the hard way) The oil article is thinly veiled promo for Amsoil, with links on each page.
 
  #3  
Old 11-01-2001 | 07:55 PM
FourStrokeFan's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Range Rover
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Default

Are you sure you read the article I posted the link to? I saw no Amsoil ads or links anywhere on that page, not to mention the fact that their name was not even mentioned or tested in the article.
 
  #4  
Old 11-01-2001 | 07:56 PM
Kiwi_Craig's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 239
Likes: 1
Default

It's a well known fact that friction modifiers used in automotive oils cause problems for motorcycle wet clutches.

Mobil apparently makes a motorcycle version of Mobil 1.

Similarly full synthetic appear to have shear problems with the highly loaded valve gear in motorcycle engines, Pam at Powroll has posted at length on this subject.

Buy the product made for the job.........

Kiwi
 
  #5  
Old 11-01-2001 | 08:10 PM
FourStrokeFan's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Range Rover
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Default

The Mobil 1 15W-50 does not have friction modifiers. As for standing up to the shear forces present in motorcycle engines, that's the primary focus of the article and its tests. The results look pretty conclusive to me.

Oh, 95Warrior, the friction modifiers present in many automotive oils will definitely cause premature clutch failure in a wet clutch machine. Make sure the oil does not say "Energy conserving" in the circle that describes its rating.
 
  #6  
Old 11-01-2001 | 08:32 PM
BlueLeader's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,878
Likes: 0
Default

so what about clutch slippage due to anti friction additives. that is the question not answered in the article.
 
  #7  
Old 11-01-2001 | 09:02 PM
95Warrior's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 444
Likes: 0
Default

On the pages I looked at there was a link labelled "Oilhelp". Hit that and the Amsoil stuff comes up. Nothing against Amsoil, they got great stuff.
 
  #8  
Old 11-01-2001 | 09:41 PM
FKNA's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 483
Likes: 0
Default

I've been using regular 10/30 automotive oil in my quad since the day of my first oil change (second time out riding) and have not had ANY problems. I spend a buck nineteen per quart.
 
  #9  
Old 11-01-2001 | 09:43 PM
awert's Avatar
Weekend Warrior
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default

Did U guys know they make a "LAWN MOWER" oil! specially formulated for your lawn mower......HMMMMM, I gotta hand it to'em on that one....
 
  #10  
Old 11-01-2001 | 09:50 PM
otterbob's Avatar
Pro Rider
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
Default

why **** around. just use yamalube.
 


Quick Reply: Motorcycle oil vs. automotive oil. It's all BS.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:24 PM.