I think the 450L basically puts out as much power as the Sportsman 500 EFI did if that gives you some idea what kind of power it has. More power than a Honda Foreman 500 or Rubicon and costs less than any of them. Might be worth looking at. If you're used to riding a Rancher 420, any of these machines will definitely impress you with the amount of power they have as they all have a lot more than the Rancher. I'd even look at the Yamaha Grizzly 550. It might be a little more expensive than any of the others mentioned but I think it might be a better fit for you.

 

I notice that also but that does not mean they do not share the same frame. A increase in width or length could just be due to fender flares or longer racks. Since they both have the same gas tank .motor and rear suspension ,it hard to believe Yamaha made a entirely different frame for the 700 Grizzly and 700 Kodiak.

 

Probably the same frame, I just originally thought they were basically identical in dimensions. I think the width and seat height are the only real noticeable differences. The Grizzly must have a different seat than the Kodiak.

 

This new information is making my decision more difficult in a good way. Since chatting with all you I now know about the Kodiak which is a tempting proposition, and now knowing that Can-Am has upgraded the 500L to a 570L it may give me more leverage in negotiating a price on the 500L or even the 450L if Can-Am is what I go for. Either way, do we know if the new Kodiak on sale yet, I would obviously be interested in giving it a look.

 

I don't see any release dates on the Yamaha site. Probably best to call a few dealers and see when they expect delivery.

 

The 450 Outlander does sound interesting, leave it to Can-Am to get 38hp out of a 450 single cylinder. That's about the HP of the Honda 680 Rincon.

 

Any given that the 450L is a single cylinder I would like to believe it is somewhat torquey. I would hope it would have more torque than my Rancher. The 450L is actually displacing 427cc while my Rancher 420 is displacing an actual 420cc. So while the 427 is only 7cc more than my Rancher I would expect that the better technology in the 450L would have a good deal more amount of torque but I am just speculating.

 

Honda OHV can't touch a SOHC or DOHC it why they are so low on the HP scale vs the others.

I just read the 450 outlander is 38hp ,I would not think the 427 is a twin.
The 450 race ATV are singles and put out 45hp so 38hp is not a high achievement.

here is a link 2015 Can-Am Outlander L 450 and 500 Preview I would quess the 570 would beat them in low rpm torque.