See and I have no interest in utility quads. I just want sport models, I have a small budget and we want new so Chinese machines will have to do for now. I'm sure the Jet 250 will do me just fine at least for a few years.

 

Okay, today we made sure the rear wheel spacers are on the way. We Weighed it. It is 314 lbs with oil and a splash of gas as measured by my scale, which measures front and then back and we add them together. We also measured a Suzuki Ozark just to calibrate and make sure we were not off. The Ozark weighed 400 lbs even, dry. Published dry weight for the Ozark is 403 lbs. So we are pretty right on with our scale.
314 lbs!!! as advertised !!! That is awesome!!!! 42.5 inches wide in front, and unfortunately 39" wide in the back. But with the wheel spacers in the rear that will take it right out to 43", which is perfect.
At this point I have struck up a rather good conversation with salesman Joe Ventura, and The Boss Man himself, Eugene. These guys are dedicated to producing a quality, competitive product and even going beyond. Eugene is breaking new ground. Stay tuned, this is good stuff....These guys are really working hard to bring us an innovative, quality product at a great price.
I used a die grinder to cut back the steering stop to increase steering lock today, and I rerouted the brake lines so they wouldn't pinch. I am awaiting the rear wheel spacers before we make any more tests, but having the front end dialed in, aligned, with steering lock maxed out, made for a much better handling machine. But that narrow rear end gets in the way of any further evaluation,,,,.......39" may seem wide to you, but our Raptor 80 (see pics) is 41.5" wide with double a-arms and works shocks....
This is a formula that works, and Eugene knows it.....

 

While we are waiting for the wheel spacers we are going to try some different tire and wheel combinations....We are going to swap with a Predator 90, a Phoenix, and whatever else will fit....

 

Are the Jetmoto tires Ok tires? Are the wheels heavy? What is the reason for swapping out with the other quads?

 

Holeshot tires, or the knobby type of ATV tire slide better than the V type, tractor lug tires on the JetMoto 150.
I am trying to get this quad to handle the way it should. The tires on it are fine for straight line and mud, not for turns. We are waiting for the wheel spacers too, because right now this quad turns on three wheels. The outside rear wheel tucks under and the inside rear wheel lifts. I think the tires are a big part of the problem, so we are going to switch to a more traditional sport quad tire, which is a Holeshot type knobby. So we are changing tires and wheels to aluminum rims with Holeshots. A pricey modification, but with the wheel spacers I think we will get the desired results. Front will be 19x6x10 and rear will be 18x10x8. We will also get some additional width with the new rims. Less rubber up front will make steering easier, and a flatter profile in the rear will help it slide. I will let you know how it turns out in about a week....

 

I've always thought it was odd that sport quads coming from the far east came with tractor lug, V style tires, even the Dinli Cannondales. Maybe they are just cheaper and more available, but they don't slide, and on a quad, that means they don't turn. The mini Predators and the JetMoto 250 have Holeshot style knobbies, so they are available, but at what cost.

For Eugene it has to be a question of where to draw the line. At what point do costs go up with better components to the point where they have priced themselves out of the market, even though producing a better machine with quality components at a great price. There are people that will, wrongly, buy the cheapest piece of crap out there just because of the price. It is about value, not price, or at least it should be. And when you are working this end of the marketplace you have to be careful not to lose your place. Swapping out rear tires, adding an o-ring chain or a K&N air filter is no big deal.. Look at all the Yamaha and Honda owners who go all out with aftermarket accessories. Not having to replace A-arms, shocks, etc. is wonderful. After all, we are working this end of the market to save money, not to buy a money pit. None of that accessory money is ever seen again when you sell it later. Any cost effective improvements Eugene can make in the JetMotos is going to insure JetMoto's success, but we can't expect to get a race-ready quad at a street corner price....

 

Thanks for all the info fourlix! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

Got the rear wheel spacers today. DON"T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT THEM!!! This brings the rear right out to the same width as the front, just as it should be. Eugene told me they would be widening the axle to eliminate the need for the spacers, but they also said that they used spacers at the Indy show. Otherwise the rear is 39" wide and the front is 42.5" wide. It just ain't right....With spacers the rear measures 43". Nice.

It finally slides respectably but the tires just grip too much. It still lifts the inside rear wheel. Replacing the rear tractor lug tires with Holeshots is a must. I am going to go the extra step and put ITP spun aluminum wheels on it with 19x6x10" tires on the front with 10x10x8 on the rear with 8x8 rear wheels and 6x10 front wheels. These wheels are direct replacement wheels for most of the 90cc minis out there with the 4-110 lug pattern. These wheels will be a little lighter, and should widen it up a little too. No big gain here, it is the rear tires that need to be changed. The rear Holeshots are slightly larger than what comes on a Predator 90, and the fronts will actually be slimmer, and easier to steer. WE are still waiting for the rear wheels, everything else is here. SO that will be next. We will re-weigh it when we are done to see if we gained or, hopefully lost a little weight in the process. The wheel spacers and tires may offset any weight loss from the aluminum wheels.

 

I really thought I was going overboard with the ITP spun aluminum wheels.....How much could that really help? Sure, save a little weight, add a little bling, and get rid of the tractor lug tires. The 19" Holeshot front tires would lighten the heavy steering, and the wider rear wheels would continue the good work of the wheel spacers and widen out the rear end.....

OHHHH Baby, Oh Baby, Oh Baby!!!....Bling Bling Bling.!!! SLIDE, SLIDE, SLIDE, !!!
The rear width went from 39" to 43" to 46" !!!
The front went from 42.5" to 43", but the tires,,,the TIRES...!!!! HOLESHOTS RULE !!

No more lifting the inside rear wheel when doing doughnuts or powersliding, no more heavy steering.

Overboard?? Nope, RIGHT ON COURSE. Everyone at our shop is blown away by this quad. It is the best and only "transition" quad for a young rider. Simply nothing else like it, or even close. Everything else is too heavy, too narrow, with too high a center of gravity.
I will post pix in the next couple of days. We are going riding tomorrow.

 

There are a couple of new pix of the JetMoto 150, dusty and wide, on my pix page. You'll see my son Ian, when he was six on his very custom Raptor 80, and this afternoon on his new JetMoto 150. Remarkable resemblance between quads. The Raptorette was widened to 41" from a skinny 33". The Jetmoto only needed minimal mods to meet our standards, just tires, wheels and wheel spacers. The Raptorette had $2,000 in modifications, works shocks, Blaster A-arms, rebuilt frame etc.
Ian is now 10, and loves his new quad.