Kazuma intermitent spark problem
#1
Hello. I'm new to this site and I really need someones help. I'm trying to get my sons Kazuma quad fixed. I think it's a Panda but unsure of the year. I know it's early 2000's. It's blue and has a handle where you can pull start it in addition to ignition.
I bought it off my uncles friend 2 years ago. It ran fine for about 5 hours. I gave it to a friend of a friend, and he ripped me off. Been through enough. My boy is 11 and wants to ride his quad.
My good friend is looking it over and said there's intermittent spark. He asked me for a wiring diagram so he can diagnose. Can you tell me where to find one? I've searched high and low.
Lastly, when you try to start it, the quad wants to jump forward. what the heck is that?
Thank you in advance! Hope someone can help me.
Anthony
I bought it off my uncles friend 2 years ago. It ran fine for about 5 hours. I gave it to a friend of a friend, and he ripped me off. Been through enough. My boy is 11 and wants to ride his quad.
My good friend is looking it over and said there's intermittent spark. He asked me for a wiring diagram so he can diagnose. Can you tell me where to find one? I've searched high and low.
Lastly, when you try to start it, the quad wants to jump forward. what the heck is that?
Thank you in advance! Hope someone can help me.
Anthony
#2
Find your CDI and tell me how many pins are on it it. Four? Five? Six?
What is the engine size?
How do you know it has intermittent spark? What was the test procedure that you used that gave you this conclusion?
Wiring diagrams are hard to come by, or completely non-existant. But if you quad is using the generic parts that zillions of other chinese quads are using (likely this is true), then we can cut and paste a new wiring diagram as we go from other diagrams that use the same parts.
What is the engine size?
How do you know it has intermittent spark? What was the test procedure that you used that gave you this conclusion?
Wiring diagrams are hard to come by, or completely non-existant. But if you quad is using the generic parts that zillions of other chinese quads are using (likely this is true), then we can cut and paste a new wiring diagram as we go from other diagrams that use the same parts.
#3
with plug out of engine, used an inline spark tester. after several rotations of engine spark was weak but was present. Where would the CDI be? This way we can tell you how many pins there are.
Engine size 97cc.
Again, I'm not mechanic, but my friend is very good with small engines. However, he's a honda/yamaha guy. This little Panda has a lot of moving parts. So we REALLY appreciate you trying to help us
Engine size 97cc.
Again, I'm not mechanic, but my friend is very good with small engines. However, he's a honda/yamaha guy. This little Panda has a lot of moving parts. So we REALLY appreciate you trying to help us
Find your CDI and tell me how many pins are on it it. Four? Five? Six?
What is the engine size?
How do you know it has intermittent spark? What was the test procedure that you used that gave you this conclusion?
Wiring diagrams are hard to come by, or completely non-existant. But if you quad is using the generic parts that zillions of other chinese quads are using (likely this is true), then we can cut and paste a new wiring diagram as we go from other diagrams that use the same parts.
What is the engine size?
How do you know it has intermittent spark? What was the test procedure that you used that gave you this conclusion?
Wiring diagrams are hard to come by, or completely non-existant. But if you quad is using the generic parts that zillions of other chinese quads are using (likely this is true), then we can cut and paste a new wiring diagram as we go from other diagrams that use the same parts.
#4
Weak spark is completely different from intermittent spark. It's important that this gets nailed down. Which is it?
Intermittent spark means that sometimes you have spark and sometimes you don't. Weak spark is very subjective. Many times people claim weak spark even when the spark is fine.
Take out the plug, wire it up, and hold the plug threads against the engine block. Go through the start up sequence. While the starter is cranking do you see a steady spark at the plug gap at about 10 times per second? Double the gap and repeat. Do you still see a steady spark at about 10 times per second?
Is your quad two stroke?
The common generic available everywhere 4 stroke CDIs look like these. See anything on your quad that looks like the following:


Intermittent spark means that sometimes you have spark and sometimes you don't. Weak spark is very subjective. Many times people claim weak spark even when the spark is fine.
Take out the plug, wire it up, and hold the plug threads against the engine block. Go through the start up sequence. While the starter is cranking do you see a steady spark at the plug gap at about 10 times per second? Double the gap and repeat. Do you still see a steady spark at about 10 times per second?
Is your quad two stroke?
The common generic available everywhere 4 stroke CDIs look like these. See anything on your quad that looks like the following:


#5
Photobucket hosts a lot of my images. The link to the third picture in the previous post is broken. It's a photobucket problem. It will probably be fixed soon. They were completely down yesterday. In the mean time the missing picture looks just like the first 4 pin CDI - except it has a fifth pin in the connector.
#6
I will send my friend the info you have provided. Thank you so much.
Weak spark is completely different from intermittent spark. It's important that this gets nailed down. Which is it?
Intermittent spark means that sometimes you have spark and sometimes you don't. Weak spark is very subjective. Many times people claim weak spark even when the spark is fine.
Take out the plug, wire it up, and hold the plug threads against the engine block. Go through the start up sequence. While the starter is cranking do you see a steady spark at the plug gap at about 10 times per second? Double the gap and repeat. Do you still see a steady spark at about 10 times per second?
Is your quad two stroke?
The common generic available everywhere 4 stroke CDIs look like these. See anything on your quad that looks like the following:



Intermittent spark means that sometimes you have spark and sometimes you don't. Weak spark is very subjective. Many times people claim weak spark even when the spark is fine.
Take out the plug, wire it up, and hold the plug threads against the engine block. Go through the start up sequence. While the starter is cranking do you see a steady spark at the plug gap at about 10 times per second? Double the gap and repeat. Do you still see a steady spark at about 10 times per second?
Is your quad two stroke?
The common generic available everywhere 4 stroke CDIs look like these. See anything on your quad that looks like the following:



#7
I did a little searching today. Is your quad a two stroke? If so, none of the above CDIs will match since they are all for 4 stroke quads.
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#8
Hey Lynn. It's a 4 stroke. My buddy took pics for you. But I don't think I'm able to post them on this forum. I'm a newbie.
My friend Kevin told me what he sees is an a/c voltage pick up on flywheel and a 4 wire coil. He said there's no CDI. Can I email you pics? Please shoot me an email at juanaman8@yahoo.com and I'll reply with pics. Thanks so much.
Anthony
My friend Kevin told me what he sees is an a/c voltage pick up on flywheel and a 4 wire coil. He said there's no CDI. Can I email you pics? Please shoot me an email at juanaman8@yahoo.com and I'll reply with pics. Thanks so much.
Anthony
#9
I'll send you a private message in a few minutes. You shouldn't post email addresses in a public forum such as this. You'll end up on every spam email list in the entire world
#10
In the first picture you show a module, but I can't see any wire colors or the number of wires. And where do they go? I've never seen anything like this. Does that fat black wire coming out of the side go to the spark plug? It may be that your ignition electronics and ignition coil are in the same module.
The second picture is your trigger pickup coil in the stator.
The third picture is the regulator.
The second picture is your trigger pickup coil in the stator.
The third picture is the regulator.


