man i was so freaking mad.....all these guys in chat where saying the honda 250r and 400ex where ladies quads and that the raptor would eat them alive in every aspect....i was pulling up for honda against like 10 people....they said the ex would soon be forgotten and all this crap..i meen what the hell? i cant wait for a shoot out...i can guarantee the results being the r and ex winning over all, and in areas such as jumping, cornering, track, trail......the raptor would win with top speed and duning.....but man? theres no dunes around here....i agree with ooohondaoo in the other post..it doesnt even look like a quad.... someone with one of those new PT cruisers from chrysler pulling a raptor would look like a Jetsons episode of the future! i dont care what those dumb @ss' say, the r and ex are the best ever built and overall quad.....