Need Help With Banshee Decision
#1
Hi All,
I want to get a New banshee, But I have a few questions. Will it keep up to the 660 raptor in stock form? I had a 2002 Raptor and did not like it because I'm more a 2 stroke guy. I will be mostly on trails so shoud I gear down and put a single carb on it? Lastly what mods can I do BESIDES porting as I will do it later do you reccomend?
I want to get a New banshee, But I have a few questions. Will it keep up to the 660 raptor in stock form? I had a 2002 Raptor and did not like it because I'm more a 2 stroke guy. I will be mostly on trails so shoud I gear down and put a single carb on it? Lastly what mods can I do BESIDES porting as I will do it later do you reccomend?
#4
i would suggest some toomey t5's or t6's a k&n filter to start. the pipes on the banshee are very restrictive anyone will tell you that. once you get those pieces of **** out of there the banshee responds very well. you could do motor work that helps also but is very expensive.
#6
I have to disagree with the prior post. If you are doing trail riding, he is steering you on a path which will leave you very disappointed. In stock form, the Banshee has no bottom end with a lightswitch top end (comes on all at once). Once you open up the exhaust, you lose exhaust backpressure (which gives it even less low end torque) and an even more uncontrollable top end surge of power. Great for dragging, bad for trails. I was in the same boat as you. My wife rides a Warrior, I wanted a Banshee. But riding with her, I rarely am WOT. I spend most of my time 1/4-3/4 throttle. The quad in stock form (or modded for top end power) is not fun ridden this way (IMO). So, this is what I did.
Power: I milled the head .030". This increases your compression, helping bottom end with a slight end on the top end. DG pipes, not the best, but they were on the quad. If I was buying pipes, I would go with Paul Turner or FMF Fatty's (or is it Gnarly's...they're mid range pipe). Moto-fast 2 to 1 carb. No longer available, but Trinity's setup will do the trick. This makes for a very manageable trail bike. It still has a lightswitch powerband, but it comes on literally at 1/8 throttle... almost immediately. So you can be at 1/4 throttle, the bike is not bogging, and is very controllable. I saw no noticeable decrease in top end from stock (but I am sure WAY less top end than a bike built for drags).
Handling: Since trail riding rarely allows you to use all your power, you are better off spending your money on making it handle better. The Banshee is nose heavy stock. This makes handling on trails a bit clumsy. The stock shocks also leave much to be desired. To help balance out the bike better, +2+1 arms move the front wheels forward, shifting the weight back. Then a -2 swingarm shifts the weight even further back. The result is a bike that turns very quickly and is very well balanced. I also went +2 axle (to match the +2 up front). Some will say wider is not good on trails, but I feel that it's only a problem if you ride in very dense woods. I spend most of my time on 4x4 paths, so it's not an issue. I replaced the stock shocks w/ triple rates up front and a Pep in the rear. The difference these make in the ride is incredible.
That is a good start.
Power: I milled the head .030". This increases your compression, helping bottom end with a slight end on the top end. DG pipes, not the best, but they were on the quad. If I was buying pipes, I would go with Paul Turner or FMF Fatty's (or is it Gnarly's...they're mid range pipe). Moto-fast 2 to 1 carb. No longer available, but Trinity's setup will do the trick. This makes for a very manageable trail bike. It still has a lightswitch powerband, but it comes on literally at 1/8 throttle... almost immediately. So you can be at 1/4 throttle, the bike is not bogging, and is very controllable. I saw no noticeable decrease in top end from stock (but I am sure WAY less top end than a bike built for drags).
Handling: Since trail riding rarely allows you to use all your power, you are better off spending your money on making it handle better. The Banshee is nose heavy stock. This makes handling on trails a bit clumsy. The stock shocks also leave much to be desired. To help balance out the bike better, +2+1 arms move the front wheels forward, shifting the weight back. Then a -2 swingarm shifts the weight even further back. The result is a bike that turns very quickly and is very well balanced. I also went +2 axle (to match the +2 up front). Some will say wider is not good on trails, but I feel that it's only a problem if you ride in very dense woods. I spend most of my time on 4x4 paths, so it's not an issue. I replaced the stock shocks w/ triple rates up front and a Pep in the rear. The difference these make in the ride is incredible.
That is a good start.
#7
I only can do a single carb setup and pipes for for now. Will the trinity single carb with t5's work or should I go with the FMF's?
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#10
If it were my presonal bike i would go with dual carbs. Reason people like single carbs is because it reduces the punch of the powerband. But it also decreases horsepower. Sounds like the reason you got rid of your 4-stroke is because it didnt have a powerband with a 2-stroke type punch to it. So id run the dual carbs. But thats just me. Half the fun of trial riding is throwing the sucker sideways


