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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Which machine would pull a Grizzly around? This is a serious question that may affect what I buy.

I'm thinking the SP600s and up may be able to pull it being as it is far heavier than the Grizz, it should spin its tires while the heavier machine pulls it away.

How about the BF750?

Or the KQ700?

The Polaris has the highest towing rating, is this just based on its weight advantage/being heavier duty construction?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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Tow ratings have more to do with how much the quad can safety handle ( ie stop) while towing. Sure more ATV's can probably pull 5000lbs ... but getting that 5000lbs stopped or turned is an entirely different story, thats where the tow ratings come into play. Ive pulled an empty 500Bu grain wagon around the yard with my AC 500man, has no problems getting it rolling but when I try to stop or turn the wagon just shoves the quad around as if its not even there... theres ALOT of momentum behind a 5000lb grain wagon. In your case I would be looking for the heaviest quad out there, something of comparable HP rating..( +/- 5hp) but definately heavier. As you point out traction will win the day in a pulling contest and traction comes from tires and weight... simple as that.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Hi if towing is the biggest factor then I think the bombardier traxter might be the best bet. It is geared for the job ..produces a lot of power ..and has the weight. If you are looking for a wheeler with a more well rounded appeal that will tow with the best of them then the larger cc polaris wheelers would serve you well
 
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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Like Pinkmoon said, a traxter would pull anything around that I know of. I'm not sure of the new, new big bores that are very heavy, they may have a chance? With me on it board, my traxter almost weighs 1,000lbs!!! This, along with gear to gear is a big advantage if you want to tow something.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Default Hooking up bumpers/pulling against each other

Originally posted by: thud
Tow ratings have more to do with how much the quad can safety handle ( ie stop) while towing. Sure more ATV's can probably pull 5000lbs ... but getting that 5000lbs stopped or turned is an entirely different story, thats where the tow ratings come into play. Ive pulled an empty 500Bu grain wagon around the yard with my AC 500man, has no problems getting it rolling but when I try to stop or turn the wagon just shoves the quad around as if its not even there... theres ALOT of momentum behind a 5000lb grain wagon. In your case I would be looking for the heaviest quad out there, something of comparable HP rating..( +/- 5hp) but definately heavier. As you point out traction will win the day in a pulling contest and traction comes from tires and weight... simple as that.
Hey thud, I think you said it best. I have pulled some heavy trailers with hay using my 700 kawa prairie and I have not had any problem. But when I need to stop quickly, that is a different story. If HP and torque are the most important features, get the BF750. But to get great traction, one needs to consider the weight of the quad. I would venture to say that even though a kawa 750 BF has more HP and torque, a sp800 might slightly win if pulling against each other, but only due to the extra weight of the polaris. Add extra weight to the 750 BF and it would probably be a different story. But, bottom line is the tow ratings are based on a factor that is close to 2.1 of the actual quad weight. My kawa 700 prairie is rated for about 1250 lbs. The quad weight is 604. 604 x 2.1 = 1266lbs. This is driven by the US cycle safety councle. If a mfg wanted to rate the quad higher, they could, but the safety councle would not back them in court. Very good response THUG.

 
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Get an 05 polaris sp800efi.....there ain't nothing going to pull that around, not even your truck.....lol.....we are getting one, with the report to follow........
 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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How about a Grizz with two 50 lb feed bags on it and Me? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/img] Anybody want to challage me. I want the right to add more feed bags though. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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any atv with more weight and the same amount of wheels driving will pull it around. my 98 sp500 would pull it around, it's all about physics. the power is only as good as what you can get to the ground.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by: FormulaLT1
any atv with more weight and the same amount of wheels driving will pull it around. my 98 sp500 would pull it around, it's all about physics. the power is only as good as what you can get to the ground.
I totally agree with you. But, I do think that even if a griz has the same weight as a polaris 600 or 700, that the polaris would probably win because the weakest link is the belts, and based on what I have seen with my kawa and another griz that I have rode with, the polaris belts seem to be better.

 
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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Everything said about weights, power, how it gets to the ground etc... are things to consider but my real world experience didn't follow the rules.

I had a 98 Scram 500 and pulled against a Grizz 600 this was in 99 when these were the big 4-strokes. Both were stock and had stock tires. Our first pull was in grass and neither one moved we just dug holes. So we moved to the dirt road and my Scram pulled the Grizz backward (won). It was just for fun and bragging rights but to this day I don't know why. The Grizz had more cc's, more weight (but the rider was lighter) and lower gearing. The only advantage I had was true 4wd vs 3wd. It could have been rider error but I don't think so since I slowly inched him along and didn't yank him quickly. Who knows just my 2 cents[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
 
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