Hooking up bumpers/pulling against each other
Sep 24, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Hooking up bumpers/pulling against each other
Originally posted by: EasterEgg
Everything said about weights, power, how it gets to the ground etc... are things to consider but my real world experience didn't follow the rules.
I had a 98 Scram 500 and pulled against a Grizz 600 this was in 99 when these were the big 4-strokes. Both were stock and had stock tires. Our first pull was in grass and neither one moved we just dug holes. So we moved to the dirt road and my Scram pulled the Grizz backward (won). It was just for fun and bragging rights but to this day I don't know why. The Grizz had more cc's, more weight (but the rider was lighter) and lower gearing. The only advantage I had was true 4wd vs 3wd. It could have been rider error but I don't think so since I slowly inched him along and didn't yank him quickly. Who knows just my 2 cents[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Everything said about weights, power, how it gets to the ground etc... are things to consider but my real world experience didn't follow the rules.
I had a 98 Scram 500 and pulled against a Grizz 600 this was in 99 when these were the big 4-strokes. Both were stock and had stock tires. Our first pull was in grass and neither one moved we just dug holes. So we moved to the dirt road and my Scram pulled the Grizz backward (won). It was just for fun and bragging rights but to this day I don't know why. The Grizz had more cc's, more weight (but the rider was lighter) and lower gearing. The only advantage I had was true 4wd vs 3wd. It could have been rider error but I don't think so since I slowly inched him along and didn't yank him quickly. Who knows just my 2 cents[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
Sep 25, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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I have pulled my friends truck out of the ditch, so I don't know what will pull my griz around. I weigh about 300 pds. and the low gear on my griz is pretty amasing. I would think that it will come down to tires and rider skill. 4 wheel diff lock is pretty awsome. Good luck beating a griz with anything. If the other rider drops his tire pressure and stiffens his suspension in the back like I did, it won't squat , it will just dig deep and pull really hard. I don't know what other machines are like in low gear but the griz accelerates like a raptor in low, but tops out around 43 mph.
Sep 29, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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As far as towing, I gotta admit that my 2000 Polaris Sprotsman 500 does a better job of pulling a 6'6'' X 10' trailer than my 2005 Brute Force does. For a few hairy seconds, I was afraid the Brute was going to cough up a rod, but it DID manage to lug the trailer down the driveway and back. But the Polaris spanks it with its higher towing capacity.
As far as the Scrambler vs Grizzly towing contest, I would also argue that the more aggressive stance of the rear wheels on the scrambler would seem to give oodles more traction than the Griz. Just a thought.
Makes me want to widen the rear axles on my Brute IRS and lower the thing a few inches...
Then again, maybe not.
As far as the Scrambler vs Grizzly towing contest, I would also argue that the more aggressive stance of the rear wheels on the scrambler would seem to give oodles more traction than the Griz. Just a thought.
Makes me want to widen the rear axles on my Brute IRS and lower the thing a few inches...
Then again, maybe not.
Sep 29, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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There must be something wrong with your BF because my P700 pulls my 5'5x12 trailer loaded with 2000 lbs of dirt with no problems at all.
As for batmans grizz toping out at 43 mph my 700 tops out at 52mph in low even with 27" tires and stock springs.
As for batmans grizz toping out at 43 mph my 700 tops out at 52mph in low even with 27" tires and stock springs.
Sep 29, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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speed isnt everything in towing.....the sportsman are some of the best towing machines.. IRS or not. i can imagine the bombardiers are great too, otherwise the sportsman will outpull everything thnx to weight. especially when you throw my dad on it..... poor sportsman.....
Sep 29, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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I am not dumping on Polaris, I actually like the Sportsman 500HO but I bought the Kawi because of the 36 month warrenty. The only reason I think their is something wrong with the BF is only due to the difference of 250CC's.
The larger bore should out pull based on engine size. Since both are IRS and their stock tires are somewhat close in performance one would think the BF should pull the same as the Polaris 500 at the very least.
The only thing I don't like about Polaris is having to grease all the time. Too many fittings having said that my Kawi has different issues such as belt wear.
The larger bore should out pull based on engine size. Since both are IRS and their stock tires are somewhat close in performance one would think the BF should pull the same as the Polaris 500 at the very least.
The only thing I don't like about Polaris is having to grease all the time. Too many fittings having said that my Kawi has different issues such as belt wear.
Sep 29, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by: SaskKawiGuy
I am not dumping on Polaris, I actually like the Sportsman 500HO but I bought the Kawi because of the 36 month warrenty. The only reason I think their is something wrong with the BF is only due to the difference of 250CC's.
The larger bore should out pull based on engine size. Since both are IRS and their stock tires are somewhat close in performance one would think the BF should pull the same as the Polaris 500 at the very least.
The only thing I don't like about Polaris is having to grease all the time. Too many fittings having said that my Kawi has different issues such as belt wear.
I am not dumping on Polaris, I actually like the Sportsman 500HO but I bought the Kawi because of the 36 month warrenty. The only reason I think their is something wrong with the BF is only due to the difference of 250CC's.
The larger bore should out pull based on engine size. Since both are IRS and their stock tires are somewhat close in performance one would think the BF should pull the same as the Polaris 500 at the very least.
The only thing I don't like about Polaris is having to grease all the time. Too many fittings having said that my Kawi has different issues such as belt wear.