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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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I just recently bought a 2002 rubicon and am having some problems with the transmission i think but not sure. Here is my problem.

When i crank the bike up it will shift into drive 1 & 2 and i can get up to 3rd gear in esp until it starts flashing but will not move, I did the code test and it is flashing code 5. I called honda and they said to replace angle sensor and i did still nothing even after reset. My next move is to pull motor and open motor up unless someone else has some advice.

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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Not to sound like a know it all but did you actually reset the computer or just clear the codes,because they are 2 different procedures?? I jsut had the same problem thats why i'm asking.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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well lets see i held the shift up down button down turned the bike on and the pressed up down up and the shift motor is supposed to run for like 5 seconds and it only ran for maybe 1 second. so i am not sure any help would be much appreciated.

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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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here you go this is the whole procedure, start with to erase the codes and follow the rest of the instructions, hope this helps, let me know.

Rubicon Hondamatic Code Retrieval
1. Put the gear shift lever in neutral (be sure the neutral indicator comes on) and the ignition switch OFF (vehicle at a stop).
2. While pushing the UP and DOWN shift switches (ESP) simultaneously, turn the ignition key to the on position.
3. Release the UP and DOWN switches immediately, then at the same time push both the UP and DOWN shift switches again and hold form more than 2 seconds.
4. The problem code is displayed by a certain number of blinks “ - - “ on the gear indicator, which indicates the problem code by the number of blinks. If “N” (neutral) stays ON on the position indicator, the retrieval process was not correctly performed. Repeat the procedures from step one at this time.)
5. When the problem code(s) displays, release the shift switches.

You should see “ - - “ for approximately 3 seconds then off, then the “ - - “ should flash, once for code one, twice for code two and so on. The engine control module (ECM) can store two different codes. If your ECM has stored two different codes, the first code displayed is the most recent and the second code is the earlier code. Write them down.
To Erase the Problem Codes
1. Push and hold the UP and DOWN shift switches simultaneously for 3 seconds of more while the problem code is being displayed (i.e., “ - - “ blinking on the gear position indictor).
2. When the erasure is completed, the blinking pattern changes to the erasure confirmation blink.
3. Turn the ignition off.

Initial Setting Procedure
Note:
• After replacement of any of the following parts, perform the initial setting procedure below.
- ECM
- Throttle sensor*
- Angle sensor
*Also, perform the initial setting procedure if the throttle cable is disconnected (i.e., car-buretor removal/installation, cable replacement etc.).
• The gear position blinks in Indicator Mode 2 when the initial setting was not made properly. Repeat the procedure from step 2.
1. Start the engine and let it idle about one minute with the sub-transmission in neutral. Stop the engine.
2. Make sure the gearshift lever is in the neutral position (be sure the neutral indicator comes on) and turn the ignition switch off.
3. Turn the ignition switch ON while pushing the UP and DOWN shift switches (ESP shift switches) simultaneously.
4. Release both the UP and DOWN shift switches immediately, then push and release the shift switches in the order of UP, DOWN, and UP. Do not hold the switches in).
5. A constant “ - - “ indication stays ON on the gear selector indicator. (If the gear position indicator shows a continuous “N”, repeat the procedure from step 2.)
6. Move the throttle lever to the fully closed position, then to the fully open position, and then move it to the fully closed position again immediately (within 10 seconds) after “ - - “ comes ON on the gear position indicator.
7. Check the control motor operation sound (the control motor should function at this time to adjust the angle sensor).
8. When the initial setting procedure is complete, the indication on the gear selector indicator changes from the continuous lighting of “ - - “ to the continuous lighting of “N”.
Code 1 - Ignition Pulse Generator system
Code 2 - Speed Sensor System
Code 3 - Gear Position Switch System
Code 4 - Throttle Sensor System
Code 5 - Angle Sensor System (Motor lock i.e., angle sensor, wiring, ECM, control
motor, motor transmission section, transmission unit)
Code 6 - Angle Sensor System (swash plate angle, sensor / wiring)
Code 7 - ESP shift switch system
Code 8 - ECM EEPROM
Code 9 - ECM voltage converter circuit
Code 10 - ECM fail-safe relay circuit
Code 11 - ECM motor drive circuit
Code 12 - ECM CPU
 
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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I appreciate the help and the reset codes and flash codes i looked but could not find them earlier, and i have found out what is wrong with it kinda. It was not the angle sensor I pulled the motor last night and opened up the front case and when i did a bearing rolled out and in the bottom of the case was a broken bearing case. opened the rear and tried to get the tranny out but cases have to be split to get the transmission out. So that is what is on the agenda list for the next couple days learning to build a rubicon tranny doesnt look to difficult though.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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thanks for the info, i think the angle sensor went out on my 02 rubi but i am not sure and now i can tell what the code is... thanx a lot
 
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