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2004 Trail Boss...Too lean or just running clean???

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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Default 2004 Trail Boss...Too lean or just running clean???

Hello. I have an 04 Trail Boss I purchased used, great condition, but had sat for a while with old gas. Prior to using, I drained old gas, disassembled/cleaned carb, new plug, new fuel filter, changed oil(M-1 0W40) and filter(Pure-One). The machine runs great. A bit cold-natured, takes a few to warm up, but runs great through the whole throttle range.
I checked the plug just to see how it looked and found it to be like new/white- No blistering or deposit like looking material, just pure clean and white. My first thought was Too Lean!!. Things I've done to correct to no avail: Recleaned carb-several times, adjusted float-several times,lowered needle clip(raising needle) to various positions, changed main jet from stock 122.5 to a 130 (to be extreme increase), played with idle screw adjustments, checked carb boot and filter/filter box. The plug stays white, no matter what I do. The plug looks black and sooty when just sitting at idle, but when operated through a range of speeds for 10-15 mins, plug check shows clean/white new appearance.
I did tape over airbox intake, which bogged it out from lack of air, also leans it out when lid removed completely. Then, I progressively removed layers until it ran good. This would darken the plug-not tan but lightly sooted look.
I got sick of working on it so I took it to a dealer for evaluation and explained all the above. They kept it for 1 week, charged 1/2 hr labor and said it was running fine, just a clean running engine, but keep an eye on it.(sighh) This all occurred last fall. I parked it for winter but it still bugs me, and spring is approaching.....Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Would really like to see the tan-ish color I think it should be, so I do not ruin the engine.
Sorry so long winded.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Default 2004 Trail Boss...Too lean or just running clean???

Granted 325 and 330 engines are cold natured because of lean pilot jet and just the nature of air cooled 4-strokes,but plug should not be white if that is what your describing,should be a medium tan. Are you running BKR7ES? If running a 5 or 6 might drop down one heat range. Haven't had any burnt up ones yet because of jetting, only one real problem child,that I had to drill out fuel air screw plug and found screw was turned out 1/2 turn from factory! Turned out two turns and eased problem. One note also in winter will run leaner than summer. Dont know if this helps. opt
 
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Default 2004 Trail Boss...Too lean or just running clean???

Thanks for the response OPT.
I believe the 7ES is the stock plug, which I am using, and did switch to an 8, which I believe is a colder plug for a BK plug. It did not have a better appearance, so I kept it stock.
The machine has great power, does not backfire, and accelerates nice smooth and crisp (at least as much can be for CV carb). I'm stumped and frustrated.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2009 | 09:40 PM
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Default 2004 Trail Boss...Too lean or just running clean???

Leave it alone or rejet the pilot jet, Have you done the proper spark plug reading Test ?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Do you mean a "plug chop"? I have not done that. I thought that was done just to tweak a particular throttle range jetting/needle position. After increasing main jet size and raising needle, without any effect, I didnt, thinking it must be something else, not related to the carb jetting. I just drove it through a series of different speeds and terrain, to get an overall idea of how it was running before checking the plug each time.
 
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