Hello everyone,
this morning I tried to start the eton and nothing. I turn the key and the light on the handle bars was on, I then hit the start button and nothing happened. I checked the fuse by the battery and it was blown. I replaced the fuse and tried it again. I made sure it was in the run position and i turned the key. I noticed that the light on the bars would come on for a couple of seconds then turn off. i turned the key to the off position a couple of times to see if it would stay on, but i t did not. I am confused by this any help would be appreciated. I also tried jump starting it and nothing, did not even click. i pressed on the brakes and they also did not come on.
thanks

 

So you replaced the fuse. Did it blow again?

What eton quad? Viper? Thunder? Sierra? If it is a viper, do you have reverse?

 

Hello Lynn,
its a viper 90 without reverse. I did replace the fuse and it did blow it, so replaced it with a larger one, and nothing.

 

What was the original fuse size, and what fuse value did you replace it with? This is a bad idea, by the way, but since it is done I want to use whatever info that may come out of that test . Did you notice any smoke? Did you notice any of the modules getting hot?

What is meant by "and nothing" happened after you replaced the fuse? It blew again? It didn't blow?

 

Lynn,
sorry so vague. Im not very good with electrical stuff. The original fuse size was a 7A and I placed a 30A. By nothing I meant there was no change, the fuse did not blow. No smoke. Which modules are you refering to. Are the brake lights supposed to turn on even though the quad is not running? The bike does not crank. I coonected jumper cables to my car( car was not running) and that did not make the quad start either. The small flashing light that scrolls left to right is working and so is the horn.
Where can I get a diagram at?
Thanks

 

so you do have electrical power to lights and horn? But starter won't turn over? If starter won't turn over may want to check out starting interlock system[saftey switch in starting system] maybe at brake system levers or pedal,, IMO the brake light should be on only when brake is applied...

 

Papa,
I do not have lights, the only things that work are the horn and the small LED light that strobes back and forth. If the quad is not running will the brake light turn on if brake is applied? I will be purchasing a multimeter this morning. How do you check the safety switch?
thanks

 

I hold the brake handle and i have no brake lights and the headlight are also not on. The only thing that works is the flashing LED and the horn. anybody have any ideas? When I press the start button nothing happens, by this i mean there is no turning of the motor and clicking from starter. my neighbor said i should check the relays or the starter solenoid. Where are these items found on the 2005 eton 90, is there a manual out there?

 

You can get the wiring diagram from here:

Wiring Diagrams

You can also download the complete owners manual from here:

Owners Manuals

Your headlights (according to the wiring diagram) run on AC voltage from the stator. Thus the headlights won't turn on unless the engine is running. The brake light runs off DC power from the battery. And it is part of a safety interlock system that will keep the starter from engaging unless the brake is applied (and means the brake switch has to work and the brake light is lit up).

I suspect your brake switch isn't working (as Papa Hogg Scoot already pointed out). Try this:

1) Set your parking brake and set your transmission in neutral.
2) Turn on the ignition switch and set all your kill swithes to the "run" position.
3) Follow the big heavy red wire from the battery positive terminal to one big screw post on the starter solenoid. Find the other screw post on the solenoid that goes down to the starter motor.
4) Now use a screw driver to short across the two big screw terminals on your starter solenoid. Some sparking is OK. This connects the battery directly to your starter motor bypassing all the saftey interlocks.

Does the starter motor turn?

Does the quad start up?

There is still the question as to why your 7 amp fuse blew. It doesn't blow at 30 amps, but it blew twice at 7 amps. 7 amps at 12 volts is about 90 watts of power. Your quad shouldn't draw that much power from the battery, so something has to be getting hot unless it is really big and thermally massive. Or your short is intermittent. Let's fnd out:

If you put another 7 amp fuse in does it blow right away when you turn on the ignition? If you can see into the fuse holder, watch it. Does the fuse blow instantly in a big flash, or does the element inside warp, grow cherry red, and melt over several seconds?

You might have two problems which will have to be dealt with individually. I do not think it is a good idea to leave a 30 amp fuse in place. You are risking melting your entire wiring harness. If a fire starts you are risking even more.

Yes, you will probably need a multimeter. It takes a bit of practice and learning, but it is a really powerful tool in experienced hands.

 

Hello Gentlemen,
i was not able to find the starter solenoid, but i did find the starter relay. I jump a wire to the red wire and the other side of the wire to the red/white wire. this made the starter turn over. the quad did not start though. Is there a way to test the brake saftey switch. I put a 7A fuse in the bike and it did not blow it out.
thanks