I stopped at a different dealership today,because they have yamaha and kawasaki, i was thinking about trading my grizzly in for the 650, the salesman was saying the 650 is going to be alot heavier than my grizz and the grizz is over 1100 pounds, i thought he meant something else, i said , you mean it will pull that much?, he went to go look it up , but of course couldnt find it, i actually talked to the guy for a while because it was entertaining that he was so dumb, or he thought i was so dumb that he could steer me to what he wanted me to buy, i dont beleive i am going to be stopping in there again.