The Cannondale brochure which is based on a SuperFlow dyno (not a DynoJet which yeilds higher numbers)test says the Cannibal has 33 HP, also says the 400ex has 21, Raptor has 28, and DS has 37. It also says the Moto & Blaze are 39HP (results of a pipe and FI mapping) so for all intensive purposes they are "piped" Cannibals, and you can't really "pipe" a Moto or a Blaze

now, lets do a theoretical comparison...
fact: dirtwheels "piped" a Raptor for a 34% increase in HP
fact: piping a Cannibal yeilds an 18% increase in HP
fact: dirtwheels "piped" a 400EX for a 2HP increase
assumption: based on the Bomb forum, a piped DS yeilds 2HP as well

using the SuperFlow dyno numbers...
that would give a "piped" 400EX 23HP & a ptw ratio of 0.0615
&
that would give a "piped" DS650 39HP & a ptw ratio of 0.0821
&
that would give a "piped" Raptor 38HP & a ptw ratio of 0.0952
&
that would give a "piped" Cannibal 39HP & a ptw ratio of 0.1040
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mathmatically, that means all of the following scenerios would be EQUAL in a drag race:

a "piped" 400EX with a 120lb. rider
a "piped" DS650 with a 264lb. rider
a "piped" Raptor with a 324lb. rider
a "piped" Cannibal with a 364lb. rider

just food for thought...

 

Damn, I'd better start eating more doughnuts!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

<< the Cannibal has 33 HP, also says the 400ex has 21, Raptor has 28, and DS has 37. From the #'s I have heard the most, the Cannibal has 39, 400ex has 26, Raptor 36 (or somewhere around there), and DS at 42. I dunno, I wanna see what the real #'s are for myself. >>



Hmmm.... I could have sworn that I said those exact same words. I believe thats plagerism. J/K, I don't care. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

Uh oh... I think I actually paid attention to something my English teacher said [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/img]... that's scary [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img].

 

By piped you mean re-mapped too, right???????

 

In horse racing it's called handycapping they add weight I believe so you can't be under X amount of pounds.

That also means I can carry a cooler large enough to quench the thirst of several riders for the day.

Smitty

 

DUNNO!!!!!!!!!!

 

sorry about the plagerism...

I copy and pasted it, intended to quote it... then started to edit it... but, I guess I messed that up

sorry again, wasn't trying to pass those words off as my own... just wanted to state the facts about the brochure

 

the guy down the street just got a ds650 baja, we will drag and get pics if i can ever find him. i looked for him all day and on the way home(in the car) i finally saw him riding in the street. that thing is really wide.

 

well crap, sounds like i need to lose some weight if i still get a 400ex!!LOL

 

that gives us light guys a huge advantage on the cannondale and raptor then...... good work DSAPP....very interesting indeed, now we just need to see those #'s for that new suzuki!
Later guys