cannodale mods, 250r plastic & more questions....
#1
I have a couple of questions about the cannondales. First one is ....how reliable are these things and how much maintenance do they require. I want to buy a new quad but i dont want to spend more time repairing it or worrying about it than actually riding it. Also, are there going to be alot of mods for these things(like pipes and such). I have found some pics of some cannons and the 250 r plastic on it that look really sweet. Are these plastics for the cannondale or are they specially cut and originally made for the R. (i think the way they look stock is awful..just an opinion...) WEll...i hope someone can answers some of these questions...oh..how much HP do these things come stock....thanks guys..
#2
HP's numbers for Cannibal and Speed, around 33, Blaze and Moto around 39. There are aftermarket pipes and silencers for them, HMF, FMF, to name a couple. The C'dales are a high performance quad and because of that, you may have a little more maintenance than a "typical" 4 stroke quad. The transmission and crank case are separate housings, like an automobile which is great, but you now have 2 separate oil's to drain and clean filters on. They are the only quad manufactuer that has this unique setup. There aren't too many mods you can do to the C'dales because they are EFI. The really neat thing is you can download different "maps" into the computer and it changes RPM limits, HP increases and it also will "move" where you want the power, for instance, more low-mid like the Moto is or more mid-high like the Blaze map is.
As far as the plastic you are referring to, we have all seen pics of that. I believe that is R plastic with a special quadtech carbon fiber hood. But believe me, you won't want to buy Honda OEM R plastic for the C'dales, way too expensive since they are not making the plastic any more. After you make the right decision and buy a C'dale, the looks will grow on you!! Besides, everyone will only see your *** as you are smoking all your buddies![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
As far as the plastic you are referring to, we have all seen pics of that. I believe that is R plastic with a special quadtech carbon fiber hood. But believe me, you won't want to buy Honda OEM R plastic for the C'dales, way too expensive since they are not making the plastic any more. After you make the right decision and buy a C'dale, the looks will grow on you!! Besides, everyone will only see your *** as you are smoking all your buddies![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
#3
<< I have a couple of questions about the cannondales. First one is ....how reliable are these things and how much maintenance do they require. I want to buy a new quad but i dont want to spend more time repairing it or worrying about it than actually riding it. Also, are there going to be alot of mods for these things(like pipes and such). I have found some pics of some cannons and the 250 r plastic on it that look really sweet. Are these plastics for the cannondale or are they specially cut and originally made for the R. (i think the way they look stock is awful..just an opinion...) WEll...i hope someone can answers some of these questions...oh..how much HP do these things come stock....thanks guys.. >>
The quads are very reliable. I haven't had any major trouble, just working out a tie-rod end problem right now. I highly recommend a Cannondale to anyone though. Maintenance wise, they aren't bad. Just a couple more steps to follow. Mods wise, people are working on them. Trinity, Nacs, R&S, Alba,ETC.
Really, it's hard for a company to come up with a better engine design. The engine doesn't respond to porting too well, and the fuel system is very complicated to work with from what I've heard. To do your own engine experiments, C-dale told me that a company will need 2 engines to do R&D on, and they're not cheap.
Simple things to look for are pipes, different fuel mappings and a larger piston. Stock out of the box, they're all fast. You'll be very pleased. I do recommend either new rims or having the OMF reinforcement rings welded into the stock rims. They do not hold up to good. THe edges are very soft.
the 33 and 39hp numbers are very conservative. Big Gun was getting 37hp on their dyno stock and 51hp with the Moto mapping and the Big Gun Race series slip-on.
#4
EvDogG, this was posted a while back in the sport quad section. Don't know how accurate the HP figures are but it looks pretty accurate. As you can see, the base C'dale which is the Cannibal, is the second best quad ever built when looking at power to weight ratio's. If you throw in the Moto or Blaze, I'm sure they would be on top or close to it since if I remember correctly, they weigh 5 pounds less than the Cannibal!! And the weight that is listed below for the Cannibal is it's "wet" weight!
Here you go:
1. Suzuki Quadzilla LT500 ---------> 51srwhp / 390lbs = 0.1308 horsepower per pound
2. Cannondale Cannibal -------------> 38srwhp / 375lbs = 0.1013 horsepower per pound
3. Yamaha Banshee ------------------> 37srwhp / 386lbs = 0.0959 horsepower per pound
4. Suzuki QuadRacer 250R --------> 31srwhp / 327lbs = 0.0948 horsepower per pound
5. Kawasaki Tecate 4 ----------------> 33srwhp / 339lbs = 0.0944 horsepower per pound
6. Honda 250R --------------------------> 31srwhp / 329lbs = 0.0942 horsepower per pound
7. Bombardier DS650 ----------------> 42srwhp / 465lbs = 0.0903 horsepower per pound
8. Yamaha Raptor 660R -------------> 35srwhp / 399lbs = 0.0877 horsepower per pound
9. Suzuki Z400 / Kawasaki X400 -> 32srwhp / 370lbs = 0.0865 horsepower per pound
10. Honda 400EX -----------------------> 29srwhp / 374lbs = 0.0775 horsepower per pound
11. Polaris Sport 400 ------------------> 31srwhp / 481lbs = 0.0644 horsepower per pound
12. Yamaha Blaster --------------------> 19srwhp / 320lbs = 0.0594 horsepower per pound
13. Yamaha Warrior -------------------> 22srwhp / 397lbs = 0.0554 horsepower per pound
14. Polaris Scrambler 500 2WD ---> 29srwhp / 525lbs = 0.0552 horsepower per pound
15. Honda 300EX -----------------------> 17srwhp / 377lbs = 0.0451 horsepower per pound
16. Kawasaki Mojave -----------------> 17srwhp / 379lbs = 0.0449 horsepower per pound
17. Honda 250X -------------------------> 15srwhp / 351lbs = 0.0427 horsepower per pound
18. Honda 250EX -----------------------> 13srwhp / 349lbs = 0.0372 horsepower per pound
19. Suzuki QuadSport 230 ----------> 11srwhp / 309lbs = 0.0356 horsepower per pound
20. Wal-Mart PowerWheels ---------> 0.5srwhp / 50lbs = 0.0100 horsepower per pound
Here you go:
1. Suzuki Quadzilla LT500 ---------> 51srwhp / 390lbs = 0.1308 horsepower per pound
2. Cannondale Cannibal -------------> 38srwhp / 375lbs = 0.1013 horsepower per pound
3. Yamaha Banshee ------------------> 37srwhp / 386lbs = 0.0959 horsepower per pound
4. Suzuki QuadRacer 250R --------> 31srwhp / 327lbs = 0.0948 horsepower per pound
5. Kawasaki Tecate 4 ----------------> 33srwhp / 339lbs = 0.0944 horsepower per pound
6. Honda 250R --------------------------> 31srwhp / 329lbs = 0.0942 horsepower per pound
7. Bombardier DS650 ----------------> 42srwhp / 465lbs = 0.0903 horsepower per pound
8. Yamaha Raptor 660R -------------> 35srwhp / 399lbs = 0.0877 horsepower per pound
9. Suzuki Z400 / Kawasaki X400 -> 32srwhp / 370lbs = 0.0865 horsepower per pound
10. Honda 400EX -----------------------> 29srwhp / 374lbs = 0.0775 horsepower per pound
11. Polaris Sport 400 ------------------> 31srwhp / 481lbs = 0.0644 horsepower per pound
12. Yamaha Blaster --------------------> 19srwhp / 320lbs = 0.0594 horsepower per pound
13. Yamaha Warrior -------------------> 22srwhp / 397lbs = 0.0554 horsepower per pound
14. Polaris Scrambler 500 2WD ---> 29srwhp / 525lbs = 0.0552 horsepower per pound
15. Honda 300EX -----------------------> 17srwhp / 377lbs = 0.0451 horsepower per pound
16. Kawasaki Mojave -----------------> 17srwhp / 379lbs = 0.0449 horsepower per pound
17. Honda 250X -------------------------> 15srwhp / 351lbs = 0.0427 horsepower per pound
18. Honda 250EX -----------------------> 13srwhp / 349lbs = 0.0372 horsepower per pound
19. Suzuki QuadSport 230 ----------> 11srwhp / 309lbs = 0.0356 horsepower per pound
20. Wal-Mart PowerWheels ---------> 0.5srwhp / 50lbs = 0.0100 horsepower per pound
#5
As far as the 250R plastic for the Cannondales, I think Walsh is selling a kit that uses their subframe and only has 2 bolts holding it on..which would be sweet. The subframe is like 400.00 and not sure about the rest of it, but there is something in the ad about a 1 gallon aluminum gas tank too. JIM
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