New Lift kit and a big wheels kit on a Bayou 220
#3
4wheelr220,
Based on personal experience and information from other sources, I would not suggest using any tires but what was stock on the 220 (22x...) I had 2 1999 220's, sold one when I got my Grizzly. They are good machines, but the motor will not have the power to turn bigger wheels. There were times when I could only use first gear to get good wheel spin in thick mud.
Last spring, there was a person who wrote in to either Dirt Wheels or ATV action asking the same question. The answer was the same.
For an instance, the 220 weighs 400 lbs dry. With a full tank, and me on it, total of close to 650 pounds. Grizzly is 600 + gas + me + winch .. total of 900 lbs. This is 1.4 times the weight, but 3 times the engine, and I am not sure if I want to upsize the tires.
If you read some other posts about tire upgrades elsewhere in this forum, you will find many people stating that increasing tire size on a Bayou 300 zaps the power. Some even say that about a Kodiak 400, see the response from "therock" to the post "which quad Y2K Kodiak or Grizzly" in the Yamaha ATVs forum.
I am afraid if you go bigger, you'll end up feeling like you wasted your money. One of the guys I ride with bought Super Swampers in the original 22" height, but 12 or 12.5 wide for his son's Yamaha 250 Beartracker. They look great, and made a night/day difference in where it could go.
The 220 is a somewhat limited machine as far as hardcore riding goes, and is priced accordingly. Throwing money at it now will not necessarily make up for money not spend on the intial purchase.
I could very well be wrong. I will keep an eye on this post, as I am interested in the outcome.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Yammer_Hummer
Based on personal experience and information from other sources, I would not suggest using any tires but what was stock on the 220 (22x...) I had 2 1999 220's, sold one when I got my Grizzly. They are good machines, but the motor will not have the power to turn bigger wheels. There were times when I could only use first gear to get good wheel spin in thick mud.
Last spring, there was a person who wrote in to either Dirt Wheels or ATV action asking the same question. The answer was the same.
For an instance, the 220 weighs 400 lbs dry. With a full tank, and me on it, total of close to 650 pounds. Grizzly is 600 + gas + me + winch .. total of 900 lbs. This is 1.4 times the weight, but 3 times the engine, and I am not sure if I want to upsize the tires.
If you read some other posts about tire upgrades elsewhere in this forum, you will find many people stating that increasing tire size on a Bayou 300 zaps the power. Some even say that about a Kodiak 400, see the response from "therock" to the post "which quad Y2K Kodiak or Grizzly" in the Yamaha ATVs forum.
I am afraid if you go bigger, you'll end up feeling like you wasted your money. One of the guys I ride with bought Super Swampers in the original 22" height, but 12 or 12.5 wide for his son's Yamaha 250 Beartracker. They look great, and made a night/day difference in where it could go.
The 220 is a somewhat limited machine as far as hardcore riding goes, and is priced accordingly. Throwing money at it now will not necessarily make up for money not spend on the intial purchase.
I could very well be wrong. I will keep an eye on this post, as I am interested in the outcome.
Good luck whatever you decide.
Yammer_Hummer
#5
ok, from what i've heard so far i've dropped the idea of getting a big wheels kit and i am just goin to get a new set of tires since i will be needing them very soon anyway, i have decided on the 22" superswampers, can i still put on a lift kit, and does anyone know where i can get one for this model. All i have been able to find is a kit for a 300. i really need this kit to if i am going to keep riding with my friends or, should i just get a bigger ATV?????
#6
I could probably buy a new ATV myself if I had a dollar for every post that I've seen from riders looking for something to keep up with their friends. Yes, I seriously doubt you will find a lift kit for the Bayou 220.
There is only one good reason for you to spend more your money on a new ATV. Simply put, it's time to buy when they (your friends) get paid more to ride than you.
There is only one good reason for you to spend more your money on a new ATV. Simply put, it's time to buy when they (your friends) get paid more to ride than you.
#7
4wheelr220,
I don't think you will find a lift kit for the 220. Most often a lift kit is used in conjunction with oversized tires, to prevent the frame, fenders etc from rubbing against the tires. Since larger tires gain ground clearance, the taller stance from the lift kit is viewed as a good trade off. If you stay with the OEM size tires (as recommended) you will not be gaining ground clearance, and you will not need to worry about tires rubbing (at least not due to height, not sure about tires wider than stock). In this case, a lift kit will unnecessarily increase the ride height, adversely effecting the balance and center of gravity. Best plan is probably to get the best stock sized tires, upgrade on motor to increase power.
I did upgrade to the Grizzly because I didn't want my riding buddies to always have to pull me out. I went just about everywhere on my 220 that they did on their 400 plus cc 4x4's, but not always. Due to the small size and relatively low weight, I could use my 200 lbs and aggressive gearing to take the 220 a lot of places. Sometimes it was great to see the looks on their faces when I kept up. I miss that sometimes. Now with the Grizzly, I'm expected to get everywhere and no excuses if I don't.
Good Luck
Yammer_Hummer
I don't think you will find a lift kit for the 220. Most often a lift kit is used in conjunction with oversized tires, to prevent the frame, fenders etc from rubbing against the tires. Since larger tires gain ground clearance, the taller stance from the lift kit is viewed as a good trade off. If you stay with the OEM size tires (as recommended) you will not be gaining ground clearance, and you will not need to worry about tires rubbing (at least not due to height, not sure about tires wider than stock). In this case, a lift kit will unnecessarily increase the ride height, adversely effecting the balance and center of gravity. Best plan is probably to get the best stock sized tires, upgrade on motor to increase power.
I did upgrade to the Grizzly because I didn't want my riding buddies to always have to pull me out. I went just about everywhere on my 220 that they did on their 400 plus cc 4x4's, but not always. Due to the small size and relatively low weight, I could use my 200 lbs and aggressive gearing to take the 220 a lot of places. Sometimes it was great to see the looks on their faces when I kept up. I miss that sometimes. Now with the Grizzly, I'm expected to get everywhere and no excuses if I don't.
Good Luck
Yammer_Hummer
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