250X info
#1
I am looking into buying a 88 250X, they dealer has it priced at $1999. I am 6 foot and weigh 220 pounds. I think this will be a very good quad for me, compared to my little 86 200SX! please anybody who has some info, it will be greatly appreciated! Thanks
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That price is way too high. I purchased an 87 250X in virgin condition for $ 1300 and, had I felt inclined to work the deal, I could have probably knocked off another 'hun. Bear in mind that this thing was soo virgin, it still had "hair" on the stock Ohtsus. I would suggest going to www.kbb.com and look up both "trade in" and "retail" on the quad that you are looking. Try to buy at a maximum of 50% of the difference between trade in and retail and you will have picked up a decent deal. Unfortunately, this formula of mine does not work when you are out trying to buy a 250R
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#6
well i checked kbb.com, you were right JSR9900, that price is kinda high. The Trade-in-Value was $1190 and the Sug. Retail Value was $1755!!!!! This 250X does have new plastic and new rear tires. But i still dont think that justifies the $250 price difference! They said they would give me from $800-$1200 for my 86 200SX! maybe that is why they have it priced high? i dunno, well if anyone knows of any other 250X's in IOWA, please inform me. and if anyone has any more info on 250X's please let me know!!!
thanks!
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When you are playing the trading game....
There is only one way to play that gam. Wholesale to wholesale! Don't plan on getting retail out your onld bike and don't allow the dealer to either. There are some new allowances like new tires and plastic. Gee that alone is near the $150 difference.
Oh you actually might consider selling your old quad outright rather than playing the trading game. Then just offer the dealer low book plus something for the new stuff that's on it.
but do remember tht Profit is not a dirty word! You will expect him to be there when you need something tomorrow!
There is only one way to play that gam. Wholesale to wholesale! Don't plan on getting retail out your onld bike and don't allow the dealer to either. There are some new allowances like new tires and plastic. Gee that alone is near the $150 difference.
Oh you actually might consider selling your old quad outright rather than playing the trading game. Then just offer the dealer low book plus something for the new stuff that's on it.
but do remember tht Profit is not a dirty word! You will expect him to be there when you need something tomorrow!
#9
In all fairness...... I've got to throw in my $ 0.02 on how to work the deal on the X. Some dealers are trying to make a buck on trade-ins but others just want to get rid of what they took. For example, we scored a 98 300EX for $ 3100 from a dealer in AZ and the argument was: "Well, this thing has obviously been trashed. Look at it, it's got nerf bars, a pipe, aftermarket tires, and the plastic has been cut. Some kid must have owned it and beat the sheeeeyotttt out of it." Argument worked, quad came home, everything is bueno. Plus, the dealer was already on the fencepost because he knows that everyone is coming in for that brand-spanking new 400EX and that a used 300EX that has been "massaged" a bit is not going to bring top dollar. But that is a very isolated case. Dealers back here in CA know that all the folks want to go play in the sand around this time of year so they ask for top dollar for whatever they've got. In some cases, they get it from the guy who doesn't have the coin for brand new but doesn't want to shop the private sector. The end result, the guy gets it in the shorts for a quad that is not worth the money he spent. Well why didn't he shop the private classified and the traders??? Glad that you asked. The average folks that are selling quads in the private sector take a look at what everyone else is asking and then gauge their asking price accordingly. The reality is, most everyone is trying to sell their stuff for more than book. I've found that the best way to confront a private party is: "Your quad is worth $ XX maximum in EXCELLENT ( showroom new ) condition and this thing is not in that sort of shape. I'll give you 10% more than a dealer would give you on a trade in...." On occasion, the party will take the deal. In other cases, if the guy is a salesman, he'll tell you that he is going to wait for a chump who doesn't know how much the quad is worth and get him for asking price. If you get this sort of response, the guy is definitely on top of his game and playing the J.P. Morgan principle. Shake his hand and call it a day because he won't fold. Other people, who do not know as much about quads, will read the blue book info and take the deal. Clearly, the retail parameters of the KBB are for a totally "showroom condition" quad and include dealer prep, cost of sales, etc.. When a guy sells you a quad that he has been riding, it is not in showroom condition. Typically, you are buying a quad in "good" condition unless it is a trailer queen that has never made it out of the transporter. "Good" condition brings the "retail" number down to a more realistic level. In some cases, 50% of the delta between wholesale and retail is a good buy if you can get on it and ride away without having to fix anything. Now if you are looking for a 250R, forget what I have said. A good price for a "virgin" stock 86-87 is $ 1800 to $ 2000. Everybody out here wants 3 grand!!! Crazy huh? Now ask yourself if a 13 year old quad that has been ridden is worth $ 3 grand. I personally am not sure. I've seen them go FAST at the preferred price and usually, by the time that you call, the deal is gone. You then ask yourself the following question: "How much is my time worth? Do I want to search endlessly for months or do I want it bad enough to take it in the heiny a little on the price?" It is a tough game. In your case though, a 250X or older 300EX just does not bring big coin. I think that you ought to present the dealer with the facts and see if you can get him into a more realistic ballpark. The tactic: "Look, no one is going to want this thing at that price and that is why it is still sitting here..." might actually work. You can almost bet that he is not into it for more than "trade-in". Work him over!!!!
#10
The last reply was a good one, thanks, next thursday i am running down to des moines and talking to the dealer there about a 87 250X they have. IF anyone else has some info on a 250X, please write in here, you dont have to own one to reply, thanks again!!
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