HP isn't a big factor, but it helps. Rider smarts is paramount. My buddy's 04 400 Freeair Cat was pulling Sportsman 700's out all last weekend. Stock, Stock, Stock 400 freeair. Ground clearance is big around here with our conditions. I've been winched only 3x since I've had my wheeler. Once is when I completely drown it in a 5' waterhole. Twice in "The Tank Trap". I have been the only guy to make it through. Anyone bragging has to go there FIRST. Its a great Ego Deflator. The New 800 took 2 bikes winches to pull that thing out. Man is that heavy. The mud has no bottom and is thick and full of moss, grass,bog, swampy crap, that smells like *&^%. When bikes go around it, you can feel the ground move! (The freeair 400 has gotten the closest without making it.) This past weekend , the winch score was Cat 0, Polaris 8, Bomber 6 (Same guy-only Bomber!)
We're going up to Redfield this afternoon to the "MXC" pit. Wide open field of deep mud. You get stuck, everyone buries you with mud as they blast by. Looks like a scene from Most Extreme Challenge on Spike TV!

 

well first off i can clutch a 500 to do about 70 mph but it won't have no bottom end so i am not concerned about top end even though out of the crate mine would do 68 and weight is NOT a plus in the mud all the time like i said where i go once you break through that peat crust you are done for and the heavy polarises have a hard time but even where it is just true hardcore mud i am glad i got a lighter machine with alot of pony's

 

hey weez how do you like the ITP589S? Ive been wanting to get them in 26inchs for a while...cant wait, then I can tackle even bigger mud!

 

with the stiff 6 ply sidewall the handling is great and they absorbe alot more bumps when you ride aggressively it seems and well there are alot of mud tires that are better in the mud but for an all around tire to put on and not take off i personally think they rank one of the best in that aspect and for my personal use i couldn't ask for a better tire if i was in the mud just all the time with it i would go with mudzilla's or vampires or something along that line but i seen mudzilla's how it seems they shake the whole drivetrain pretty bad but they also just keep digging but i am sure you will enjoy them as much as i enjoy mine and they are very good in the snow to

 

that new polaris is exactly what weez440 said, its a 700 bored out to 760cc, only ten more than the BF750, and with all that extra weight polaris puts on their quads i doubt it would beat the BF. Now polaris are super stable thanks to all their weight, but the 650 has more hp. not quite sure on torque but i think highlifter had the dyno runs in.

 

760 cc's is the official size? how can they get away with calling it an 800???? isn't that a form of false advertising yeah i could see if it was a 799 or something but like yamaha calls their grizzly the 660 but the polaris guys that work there told me not to worry bout it cause where my 650 may lack a lil bit if at all in the horsepower department i will more then make up for it in the weight department they said that the 800 can't hang a wheelie like mine but the weight could play a big part in that to

 

Check this out http://www.msnusers.com/TEXASMUDSUBS The Kawie-Cat does very well!!!!!

 

800 videos

The 800 motor has other tweaks to it than just 80 more cc. It has duals and can wheelie at will, check out the videos in this thread.

Yamaha calls a 321cc a 350. And the sportsman 400 is really a 425cc.

 

the polaris website itself states the actual displacement to be 760cc's. guessing the fuel injection helps add a little more power too. Only a 4.75 gallon tank? and it weighs 765 pounds dry?? Thats alot of weight, 121 pounds more than a dry ac 650. Big question though, why does polaris put 1.25" recievers on their quads?? To me i dont think the sixty cc's justifies that price though, but if u have the money more power to you, feels good to say you have the biggest and baddest. In the vids that suspension looks really soft too.

 

even with my winch and front brush guard i am thinking of strapping a cement block on the front of mine to keep the front end down i crack it down in a mudhole and i hand a wheelie through it and that dual exhaust doesn't help you at all if you want it to help ya hack off that single pipe and run two straight pipes to the exhaust it is like my other truck i put dual exhaust on it but it was just split off behind the cadillatic converter i didn't gain any power it just sounded cooler if i wanted a pony gain i would have went with headers and true dual exhaust all that extra pipe did was gain ya more unnecessary weight